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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:39 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
inkoreaforgood wrote: |
Ha, guess you must be swimming in women with that attitude. Women who say one thing and then do the complete opposite are simply immature and foolish. Consider them girls, if you will. Real women will have little to do with dangerous, mysterious men, since there is a great lack of security and much unsureity about their future... |
Are you female? If so, you just proved me right once again. What chicks think they do not like is exactly what they respond to, and vice versa. |
Stop sniffing down there. I'm male, dammit!! Even if I was female, I don't see how my message would have "proved you right"!! Please explain!! |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
Tiger Beer wrote: |
Just watching a reality TV show |
Reality + TV = something of an oxymoron wouldn't you say ???
BLOW UP YOUR TV. |
I agree there. If a viewer can't see that the whole thing is a setup, a performance, then suspension of disbelief works too well. Come ON!!! There's a camera RIGHT IN THEIR FACE!! Of course they won't be acting as normal!!
Red Foreman's voice:"Dumbass!" |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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inkoreaforgood wrote: |
Stop sniffing down there. I'm male, dammit!! Even if I was female, I don't see how my message would have "proved you right"!! Please explain!! |
My point was, lots of women like to point out that they are the exception and that some girls aren't into jerks, and they really do like the stable, successful type. These women have no idea what their own brains respond to. Invariably they like exactly the opposite of what they say or think that they like. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:08 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
lots of women like to point out that they are the exception and that some girls aren't into jerks, and they really do like the stable, successful type. |
I have indeed heard many, many women make these claims....give them a choice and they'll choose the drug-dealing ex-con on a motorcycle every time, and then cry about it later....fact of life. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:41 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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Gopher wrote: |
joe_doufu wrote: |
lots of women like to point out that they are the exception and that some girls aren't into jerks, and they really do like the stable, successful type. |
I have indeed heard many, many women make these claims....give them a choice and they'll choose the drug-dealing ex-con on a motorcycle every time, and then cry about it later....fact of life. |
I agree, to a point. I think women like those types temporarily, for entertainment value when they're single. But they (generally) marry the nice stable guys for a secure future.
in any case..guys are pretty darn hypocritical about the whole thing. We go out with demanding/ tyrannical airheads just because they look good. How shallow is that? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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231025?
Sparkles*_* |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
231025?
Sparkles*_* |
867-5309 |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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rapier wrote: |
in any case..guys are pretty darn hypocritical about the whole thing. We go out with demanding/ tyrannical airheads just because they look good. How shallow is that? |
Yes, I'll cop to doing that. It ended with a very hot Las Vegas alcoholic beverage waitress who criticized me for working and going to school at the same time. She felt that while you're young, you should just work and party. Go to school later in life, when you're older. I stopped dating alcoholic beverage waitresses at that time.
Here's a real story on picking up women, at least in Las Vegas, you might find it interesting:
My best friend and I agreed that the "nice guy" approach (for example: how are you? nice dress. what are you drinking? etc.) would only earn you scorn. First we tried the extreme macho approach (for example: you. come here!) and got mixed results. Then we shifted to starting out with an insult or aggressive comment, covered as a joke (for example: please don't tell me you paid full price for those shoes! listen in on a conversation and then say something like: sounds like it sucks to be you; or simply say: why are you looking over here? can I help you with something?) and the results were unbelievable.
Shakes my confidence in women, man. |
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Hwajangsil Ajumma

Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: On my knees in the stall
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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Qinella wrote: |
Sounds like a moron to me. Most people on reality shows really are morons. They say stupid things like, "You know, a lot of people are afraid of gays and all, but I'm not one of those people. I treat them like regular people." Ooookaaaayyyy. |
So you've been watching Manhunt too? Awesome!
I met my husband when he swaggered into my hwajangsil, spat on the floor before I could remove my forehead from the flightpath, and then proceeded to beat me with his handuhpone when I yelled at him for peeing on the floor. It was love at first sight. |
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Anyone have a raging migraine induced nose bleed yet? |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'll admit that I tend to love men for their faults, rather than despite them. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: friends and mystery men |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
inkoreaforgood wrote: |
Stop sniffing down there. I'm male, dammit!! Even if I was female, I don't see how my message would have "proved you right"!! Please explain!! |
My point was, lots of women like to point out that they are the exception and that some girls aren't into jerks, and they really do like the stable, successful type. These women have no idea what their own brains respond to. Invariably they like exactly the opposite of what they say or think that they like. |
Well, you seem to be saying that women have no understanding of themselves at all. What an incredibly ignorant thing to say.
In my own personal experience, women have a much greater understanding of themselves than men. Women are much more introspective, and turned inward than men. All my women friends have also married men that are very stable, respectable people. Again, I think you confuse women with girls. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Jensen wrote: |
even from a guy's perspective, politeness and niceness, sensitivity, and a certain willingness to "share" are generally desirable traits in men as well as everyone else...but taken to the point where they become defining characteristics of the individual's personality I suspect they either are symptoms of psychopathic duplicity (a well-concealed basement door with a room full of disease and terrors beneath) or they express some bland emptiness of the soul...I can't imagine either is particularly sexy... |
Excellent.
Yes, we do like men to be sensitive and to listen and also to be able to hold up the other end of a conversation. But the really really nice guys I have met have serious problems, and a lot of unresolved hostility. |
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simone

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
My best friend and I agreed that the "nice guy" approach (for example: how are you? nice dress. what are you drinking? etc.) would only earn you scorn. First we tried the extreme macho approach (for example: you. come here!) and got mixed results. Then we shifted to starting out with an insult or aggressive comment, covered as a joke (for example: please don't tell me you paid full price for those shoes! listen in on a conversation and then say something like: sounds like it sucks to be you; or simply say: why are you looking over here? can I help you with something?) and the results were unbelievable.
Shakes my confidence in women, man. |
Sounds like a "negative hit"... when done by an otherwise nice guy it comes across as sincere. You probably end up seeming well balanced between doormat and jerk.
Women like a challenge, just like men do. Some girl throws herself in your lap, or who otherwise just clings to you is exciting for all of about five minutes, eh?
A nice guy, who yet is confident in himself, nice to waitresses and old people, yet who doesn't act like a puppy dog reponsding to every call immediately, is quite appealing. Desperation, which is what a lot of "nice" guys reek of, is very unattractive.
Basically, he should be a good guy, but also be himself.
If "nice" equals doormat, of COURSE women't aren't turned on by nice guys.
On Askmen.com, they have regular columns from "Dr. Love" who advertises this whole "system". Now, it IS a bit manipulative, but I think it will give women the kind of man they really want, and the kind of man it shouldn't hurt any of you fellas to become.
Simone
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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simone wrote: |
Gopher wrote: |
My best friend and I agreed that the "nice guy" approach (for example: how are you? nice dress. what are you drinking? etc.) would only earn you scorn. First we tried the extreme macho approach (for example: you. come here!) and got mixed results. Then we shifted to starting out with an insult or aggressive comment, covered as a joke (for example: please don't tell me you paid full price for those shoes! listen in on a conversation and then say something like: sounds like it sucks to be you; or simply say: why are you looking over here? can I help you with something?) and the results were unbelievable.
Shakes my confidence in women, man. |
Sounds like a "negative hit"... when done by an otherwise nice guy it comes across as sincere. You probably end up seeming well balanced between doormat and jerk.
Women like a challenge, just like men do. Some girl throws herself in your lap, or who otherwise just clings to you is exciting for all of about five minutes, eh?
A nice guy, who yet is confident in himself, nice to waitresses and old people, yet who doesn't act like a puppy dog reponsding to every call immediately, is quite appealing. Desperation, which is what a lot of "nice" guys reek of, is very unattractive.
Basically, he should be a good guy, but also be himself.
If "nice" equals doormat, of COURSE women't aren't turned on by nice guys.
On Askmen.com, they have regular columns from "Dr. Love" who advertises this whole "system". Now, it IS a bit manipulative, but I think it will give women the kind of man they really want, and the kind of man it shouldn't hurt any of you fellas to become.
Simone
Happily married to a classy guy |
Nice post Simone. |
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