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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: Is this GEPIK or something else? Reply with quote

I've been offered a job in a Gyeonggido public school, however the conditions seem somewhat.. worse than other public school jobs I have seen advertised. I have been told it is 22 hours a week. This is not 22 classes, it is 22 hours so 33 40 minute classes. I was under the impression that most people in public schools did 20-25 classes a week.

I was also told that these classes would be before 2:30pm, and after this I would have to stay at the school until 5:30. I was then told that between 2:30 and 5:30 I can (in fact, she used the word will) do extra classes at 20,000 an hour (and I bet that is per hour and not class as well..).

Is this a GEPIK job? I'm thinking it isn't very appealing. I can get a Hagwan job with smaller classes which only needs me to be there 5 or 6 hours a day instead of 8. Though I'd miss out on all those random days off you public school types get for exams and school birthdays etc.

thanks,

-HE
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is this job located?
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can bet that on test days, etc., that you will be required to be on-site for the full day even though you have nothing to do.

Public school jobs are becoming very much hogwanized; the only real attraction left is that you don't need to worry about being paid on time. That's about it.

I remember those days in the public school... trapped in an un-airconditioned tiny little office approaching 35 degrees in 95 percent humidity, listening to the Korean teachers say things like, and I quote:

"Chinese workers are very lazy", and my personal favorite, "Koreans are very intelligent because we can speak Korean".

And this is from teachers, who you would think would be a little more intelligent, but I guess not.

Just remember, if you work in a public school you're going to have to spend 8 hours a day rubbing shoulders with Koreans...

If you're lucky you might get to work with a Korean who has lived overseas...

Koreans who have lived overseas are generally infinitely more intelligent and functional and less absurd than the rest of them...

They're night and day actually....
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
Where is this job located?


I think it's Bucheon.. somewhere west of seoul anyway.

And Paddycakes, I have a good friend who works in a public highschool. Over the last year he has worked maybe 4 or 5 full weeks, the rest of the time he has had at least one day or halfday off a week, and wasn't required to be there. He also didn't have to do any camps in the vacations so he got almost 2 months off over the winter and spring vacations. He's lucky though heh. (His contract was the typical 14 days vacation. Seems more like he worked 14 days haha.) I'm not expecting a gig that good, he was real lucky, but if I was working for a public school I'd at least want the advantage of fewer class hours a week over a hagwan.

-HE
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's something fishy here if you are being asked to teach 33 classes a week. At my public school, I teach 24 40 mintue classes a week. Anything over that is overtime. So yea, 1 hour = 40 minutes in my contract. As for vacation, it says I get 4 weeks/year in my contract. But, just this summer alone, I have gotten 4 weeks. I don't know, I wouldn't take the job if they were making you work 33 classes. Something's wrong here.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
Well, there's something fishy here if you are being asked to teach 33 classes a week. At my public school, I teach 24 40 mintue classes a week. Anything over that is overtime. So yea, 1 hour = 40 minutes in my contract. As for vacation, it says I get 4 weeks/year in my contract. But, just this summer alone, I have gotten 4 weeks. I don't know, I wouldn't take the job if they were making you work 33 classes. Something's wrong here.


Yeah my thoughts too. I'll hopefully get a real contract to look at tomorrow so I can see this stuff in writing. They are also doing a recorded telephone interview with me tomorrow which I hadn't heard of before. The recruiter wants to record me and give it to the principal. That doesn't bother me.. but it sounds like they must be damn fussy for what sounds like a crap position. And presumably the recruiter has been trying to talk the job up to me so far, and gloss over any bad parts..

From what I've heard so far the ONLY advantage over a hagwan is that this public school is guaranteed to be reliable with pay because they are a government school. Lots of hagwans pay on time, for fewer working hours and fewer facetime hours with smaller classes. Before this 'interview' starts tomorrow I think I'm going to have to make this recruiter explain why this job is anything but crap..

-HE
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know who it's with, but I wouldn't sign it.
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: Hours in a public school Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
zappadelta wrote:
Where is this job located?


I think it's Bucheon.. somewhere west of seoul anyway.

And Paddycakes, I have a good friend who works in a public highschool. Over the last year he has worked maybe 4 or 5 full weeks, the rest of the time he has had at least one day or halfday off a week, and wasn't required to be there.
-HE


I have taught in 3 different public schools in 2 different provinces. In all of them I was required to be at the school from 0830 to 1630 REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF CLASSES - EVEN IF THERE WERE NO CLASSES FOR ME TO TEACH !! I was not permitted to go home if I had no classes although occasionally I left 30 minutes early (but this was very unofficial).

I have heard of foreign teachers being permitted to leave if they had no classes but I think this is unusual.
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