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5 days to go & forced medical insurance?
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pdog



Joined: 31 May 2004
Location: daegu

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Must. They were telling us that we chose not to go into pension. We are calling National Pension today to find out how to make them pay. Again the problem is that we have to get them to do it FAST so we can wrap it up in the next two days... The fun never stops...

Thanks for the words tzechuk and denverdeat.

Hot and getting hotter,
Pdog.
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:


My husband pays a heck of a lot and neither he nor his employees get any of it back, being Koreans...



Well, they do get it back. Not in a lump sum like us, but they get it back when they retire the same as we would when we retire back home. Or, if you and your hubby ever go back to (?) to live he would get it back.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
My husband pays a heck of a lot and neither he nor his employees get any of it back, being Koreans...

They will get it back at retirement age, won't they?
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pdog



Joined: 31 May 2004
Location: daegu

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey all,

Here is day two of trying to turn the tables. We have not yet received our tickets. They were supposed to have been fed-exed here by Monday. Now seems they won't be until tomorrow. They wouldn't copy the info about our leaving date and today had supposedly lost it. They wouldn't give us the number of the travel agent and we were supposed to have a meeting after school but the director left while we taught our last classes. The translator told us to wait for a bit and then after a bit told us she probably wasn't coming back. I phoned the part owner who is in the process of handing down the business to the present director. I told her we had been getting the run around all day as to the flight info and tickets... and she told me she wanted nothing to do with it as she is only part owner and not director. I told her I didn't want to discuss that with her but was just letting her know that I was off to the pension office again tomorrow to let them know that we wanted our pension and were being denied. Luckily we have someone that can translate for us that is family and not Korean school teacher (all who have been told to deny and not talk to us, but one is trying to help us out with bills and stuff). We were also told that our severance wouldn't be paid until the 11th of August. I am going to have to not worry about that because we have someone here who will look after what needs to be done and will get everything signed in that regards.

Sorry for the rambling but this screen and your replies have been a good venting machine and source of info and helpful opinions over the last four days. We are in the shootout/showdown stage now and will have to 100% percent force the issue at the pension office tomorrow. Does anyone know labor ph numbers in Seoul or Daegu. I had some info from a helpful guy earlier who gave me 02-1230. This might help us some...

Also. This is what my plan is. Tell me how it sounds. We are going to head to the place in the morn. I am going to tell them we want to pay and that it is mandatory. I will explain that we are willing to put in our money and that because they will not comply they are acting illegaly and should be charged and should therefore pay their back-dues and a fine. It may sound stupid simple and a little too commonsensical for some, but if locked in it may work.

Please shoot your opinions my way and all the help possible is very much needed.

Cheers all, it's time for a Hite!
Mike
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a small school that's changing hands, I'd be a little on the careful side. They may not be willing to suddenly pay out an extra 2 mill, when in their books they were budgeting for the 800 k from you. That's a swing of nearly 3 mill. Yeah, it's the law, but hogwan owners have been known to be very creative out here.

Severance a month from now? I saw one contract like that in my time and that was the end of that negotiation. Fortunately, you'll have people here that can help you take care of things when you're back home.

Keep us posted. It sounds like you'll have an eventful week.

Good luck.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pdog,

I was a little sorry to hear how things have turned, but I hope that it was for the best. Do you have any update for us? I hope all goes well.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think you're pushing it by shooting for your pension this late in the show. Though they did try the same game with your medical, I don't think fighting fire with fire is such a good idea. You may get royally burned. I'd just be making sure they don't make me pay that bogus medical fee they wanted to con out of you.
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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a thought...they don't have your plane tickets and are "holding them hostage" Well, they paid for them--but you can reschedule your flight. When you go to the Pension office, tell them that your boss is stalling and holding your tickets and you're supposed to leave in 2 days.

Since those tickets are in your name, you could call the travel agency and delay them--or even call the airline and tell them you want to change the date.

For 3 million won, you could stick around Korea for an extra 4 days or so until your boss coughs up what he owes.

Sometimes fire with fire is the only way in Korea--and you have nothing to lose. He does.
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justagirl wrote:
Sometimes fire with fire is the only way in Korea--and you have nothing to lose. He does.


Nothing to lose? Have you missed all those stories where an employee wants to get what is rightfully theirs and ends up getting shafted? I think more often than not in these situations the boss would have no problem with a we-both-lose approach. Try, but cautiously, is still my advice.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegpig wrote:
justagirl wrote:
Sometimes fire with fire is the only way in Korea--and you have nothing to lose. He does.


Nothing to lose?



My thoughts exactly - there's a month's wages, severance and airfare (x2!!!). That's a lot to lose. The posters telling you you've nothing to lose are theonly ones with nothing to lose.

Good luck, but tread carefully and don't get greedy.
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, the week's up. What's happening?
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, did he kill you? Are you back in civilization? Am I talking to myself?
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