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Fake Degree vs [Fake] "Honorary Degree"

 
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bpocock



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Fake Degree vs [Fake] "Honorary Degree" Reply with quote

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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone distinguished enough to receive an honourary degree from a legit university isn't going to be teaching ESL in Korea.

Full stop.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct. Off the top of my head, people like Bill Clinton and Quincy Jones receive honorary degrees...


As far as a registrar recognizing military service or other "life experience," and assigning it college credit -- that is up to each university and is a legit practice.
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denverdeath



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...I wonder how well Clinton or Jones could teach English in Korea?
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OP isn't referring to people who got honorary degrees from prestigious universities, but people who buy honorary degrees online. Perhaps a place like Almeda university http://www.almedacollege.org/life/faqs.html. Though I think this one actually requires you to do a little bit of work.

Places that you give, say $1,000 to and they give you a degree without you really doing any studying, which supposedly reflects what you've learned in the real world already.

-HE
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
Hmm...I wonder how well Clinton or Jones could teach English in Korea?

Clinton was nicknamed "the communicator" because anybody who has ever met him, even his staunch opponents, say he's got a presence you just gotta like, he wins you over with his charm, he has a charisma of personality, noticeable in person, that would translate well in the classroom.

But check under his desk periodically, just to ensure it's empty. And repeat the school's policy on dating staff and students. Do so daily.
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bpocock



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Immigration has done its homework then it is checking transcripts received against lists of accredited institutions (such as CHEA's at http://www.chea.org/pdf/CHEADirectory.pdf) available on the internet. Diploma mills aren't on those lists.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't tell me that Korean Immigration has operated for all of these years, with EFL instructors, without understanding accreditation...
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The evil penguin



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
denverdeath wrote:
Hmm...I wonder how well Clinton or Jones could teach English in Korea?

Clinton was nicknamed "the communicator" because anybody who has ever met him, even his staunch opponents, say he's got a presence you just gotta like, he wins you over with his charm, he has a charisma of personality, noticeable in person, that would translate well in the classroom.

But check under his desk periodically, just to ensure it's empty. And repeat the school's policy on dating staff and students. Do so daily.


I believe it was the interns job to make sure it was empty on a regular basis.....
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This contribution came from JB off the "Online Learning Directory" discussion board.

Fake degrees (forged documents) have a history of passing in Korea IF the teacher has TESOL certification. Most ESL positions only require TESOL and experance. An undergraduate or graduate degree only helps an ESL teacher make more money.



CHEA is American and has no bearing on non US degrees or the acceptance of US state licensed schools in Korea.



So to answer your question in a word- yes. I would also say that schools who's names are well known for PLA might have more reprecussions down the road.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Fake Degree vs [Fake] "Honorary Degree" vs. Fake intelligence vs. Fake motivation in life vs. Fake sense of nobility vs. Actually getting a life by doing the work it takes to succeed


This would be a better title for this thread. I think it is clear what I think of fake degrees and the people who have and use them. I won't post anything more on the subject since I don't want to help anyone who looking into obtaining fraudulent credentials.
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