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Immigration says "no" to summer camp
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why's that ? ... a C4 is totally legit for summer employment as far as I know.

I sent in a signed copy of my contract with when I applied so unless you know something I don't, I reckon it should be ok. .
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
Why's that ? ... a C4 is totally legit for summer employment as far as I know.

I sent in a signed copy of my contract with when I applied so unless you know something I don't, I reckon it should be ok. .


Okay, then.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inkoreaforgood wrote:
dbee wrote:
I got my C4 visa in malaysia a couple of days ago, I didn't have my original degree with me at the time. I felt that the chances of them actually processing it without that were miniscule. All that I had was a photocopy of my degree, which by the way was in Latin.

Basically it could have been a recipe for kimchi for all they knew. But to my eternal surprise they just asked me for a handwritten translation and that was it. I'm working now at a summer camp for a respected university, so maybe that was what convinced them. I also have an old E2 visa in my passport.

Still though I was really surprised that they were willing to bend the rules this time on my account as immigration aren't widely known for their flexibility...


Yeah.... hope you're not teaching on that C-4.



I could be wrong, but I also thought the C-4 was the legal visa to teach a camp, if you have no other visa.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah a C-4 is the one for people flying over here specifically for the camp. For others already here on an E-2 then a C-4 is not possible to get, so that's why you get an addition to your E-2.

Thanks I appreciate everyone's advice. It pisses me off that I couldn't get approval because I did try to do everything by the book. The rules are so strict it's unbelievable. Basically although the camp is being held a a training center which is licenced and recognize, the fact that the high school is sponsering it is NOT recognized as they aren't the permanent ones who use that place, or some such garbage the guy tried to explain. Ah screw it.....
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:
Basically although the camp is being held a a training center which is licenced and recognize, the fact that the high school is sponsering it is NOT recognized as they aren't the permanent ones who use that place, or some such garbage the guy tried to explain. Ah screw it.....


Could you have the organization that runs the camp get you the visa? That would seem a simple and logical end run round the rules.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy at immigration was very nice and actually called the director to explain WHY it wasn't possible to issue this visa. So unfortunately not even the director could pull any strings.
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spidey112233



Joined: 21 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:
The guy at immigration was very nice and actually called the director to explain WHY it wasn't possible to issue this visa. So unfortunately not even the director could pull any strings.


That's were the corruption/pay offs comes in!! Laughing
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:
The guy at immigration was very nice and actually called the director to explain WHY it wasn't possible to issue this visa. So unfortunately not even the director could pull any strings.


Right, so will immigration let you do the add a workplace thing and allow the othe organization apply for your camp visa?
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it's impossible. They won't issue the visa period. The place isn't a qualified place and there is no way around it.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bummer.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all ended well. Sure it was a big risk but I just didn't have the heart to not go to the camp as they couldn't find another teacher on such short notice.
The kids were great and we had a great time. Sure I was a little nervous thinking immigration could have come at any moment but all ended well with nobody in sight.

I am NOT saying that this was a good idea at all, it wasn't but I rolled the dice and got lucky. I highly suggest for anyone else to make sure all the paperwork is in order and that you are given permission. Hope everyone elses camp went well.
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