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Is the BBC failing to report the news?
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joo Ripp will tell you this isn't anything to do with Islam.


And he would be dead wrong.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
this isn't to do with Islam. It's to do with power, oil, jealousy, elitism -


that sums up islam exactly, its all one and the same.
Islam was a belief system designed to support and fortify an imperialistic military state. Its programming utilisess spirituality to justify warfare and geopolitical conquest. Islam is a business.
Oil profits go to support the ecomic power and spread of islam- schools, community centres, political parties, terrorist organisations. Islam is virtually indistinguishable from the muslim government mafias.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think at this juncture I'll point out some irony.

Rapier, and you can be free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, is one of many on this board who criticize (or at least observe) Koreans lack of critical thought. yet what do you know, the same could be said about him. Very Happy
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Butterfly wrote:
this isn't to do with Islam. It's to do with power, oil, jealousy, elitism -


that sums up islam exactly, its all one and the same.


Uhh, so oil and Islam are one and the same? Like, Muhammad was really keen on developing the fossil fuel industry?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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Butterfly wrote:
this isn't to do with Islam. It's to do with power, oil, jealousy, elitism -


that sums up islam exactly, its all one and the same.


Uhh, so oil and Islam are one and the same? Like, Muhammad was really keen on developing the fossil fuel industry?



Laughing

Yeah, you know Pakistan, Tunisia, Lebanon, and the palestinian territories are just filled to the brim with oil. Oh, can't forget the Maldives either. And Bangladesh? Damn, that place just can't sell its oil fast enough.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
I think at this juncture I'll point out some irony.

Rapier, and you can be free to correct me if I'm wrong on this, is one of many on this board who criticize (or at least observe) Koreans lack of critical thought. yet what do you know, the same could be said about him. Very Happy


Thank you. Been wanting to say that for years, just didn't have the time in my busy day ... I just might owe you a beer for that one, BB.

On the other hand wrote:

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Like, Muhammad was really keen on developing the fossil fuel industry?


This made me laugh. I like to laugh.

Thank you.


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rapier



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The global expansion of Militant Islam is financed by Middle East oil wealth. In the U.S. oil means gasoline. Every time you fill your gas tank, some of the money will find its way into the hands of Islamic extremists who are planning the next terrorist attack.

Is there anyone who cannot see the connection between the flow of oil money into the Middle East and the flow of terrorism out of the Middle East?

"The rise of terrorism by militant Islam against the United States and the West coincided with the rise in oil prices of 1979-80 and the subsequent transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars from the West to Muslim countries." – Max Singer, senior fellow, The Hudson Institute.

To help understand the role of oil money in the global expansion of Islamic terrorism imagine what would happen if the Ku Klux Klan was given one hundred billion dollars to promote their vision of the world.

http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/

Oil is the engine of islamic growth. It not only finances terrorsim, but the building of schools, mosques and a host of islamic missions in the west. Some of the harshest muslim countries have their abuses of human rights overlooked by the international community because they have economic clout from controlling oil.
The oil boom gave Islamic nations political clout throughout the world because they controlled the majority of the oil reserves. "Oil wealth gave Muslims the power to raise or lower oil prices, to buy telephone systems from this company or helicopters fromthat country, to give aid or withhold it. . .[and] the west hardly reacted at all. This passivity heightened the perception among Muslims that a momentous shift in power had occured, and they were exhilirated by it.

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/islam.html
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, now you're refering to militant Islam. Don't think you'd find many- if any- who would object to the connection between oil in the M.East and the rise of power/influence of fundamentalist Muslims.

If only that is what you would have said originally.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
The global expansion of Militant Islam is financed by Middle East oil wealth. In the U.S. oil means gasoline.

You have previously pointed out that all Muslims are terrorists, and Islam is all about oil; So that would make all oil companies- like Exxon and Mobil and Texaco- pretty much the pawns of terrorists.

I think this last part might actually be some common ground between us; so, um, who's going to break the news about the oil companies to all the conservatives?

I don't think Bush or Cheney are going to take this news very well either...






Doesn't it just suck when the world is not as simple as you'd like it to be?
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