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[dulouz]

Multicultism is left intentionally vauge since it is a grossly flawed political-humanist-neomarxist theory that caves immediately upon any manner of scutiny. Mcultism is not defined simply because any attempt of questioning is met with arrest, loss of job, harrasment, censure and jail time. The UK is one of the most important countries today and this a central doctrine to its governence but cannot honestly and forthrightly define it. A nation of laws?

[bigverne]

[dulouz]

Thats dead on, I've always wanted to be able to ask "What happens when two values are mutually exclusive?" Who then wins, who then loses? After that, can a place call itself multicultural or is it now oppresive?

[Wangja]

Actually. I'd puzzle over multicultism too.

[khyber]

MC is a great idea and it is dangerous.
I think that it's still important for communities to have a sense of self but to remember that they are part of a whole and therefore have responsibilities towards the whole. So many people (liberals especially) have difficult remember that with rights come responsibilities. I would guess that the opposite is true of conservative but both of these areas are pretty grey and sorta generalizations.

[Tiger Beer]

I thought the concept of 'multiculturalism' was more a North American/Oceania thing.

European countries have never really pretended or professed or gleamed about the concept of 'multiculturalism' that I know of.

[matthewwoodford]

Hmmm, yes if you nab me in the street and ask whether I like multiculturalism I'm liable to think 'yes, I like having a good choice of restaurants'.

[rapier]

Multicultism only really exists in the music industry.

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multiculturalism? don't know much about that.

[Ya-ta Boy]

Asking people if they agree with an abstract is a waste of time because it is misleading. Lots of things sound good in the abstract. It's when you get to specific cases that it makes a difference. For example, I can say I really truly believe in freedom of religion. Easy to say.

It's one thing to say I believe in freedom of religion if all my neighbors are Baptists, Methodists, Congregationalists and Presbyterians. It's quite another when my neighbors want to collect gunny sacks full of rattlesnakes and turn them loose in the backyard while they dance around holding and caressing them. Or what about the Quakers/Mennonites/Amish who are pacifists while my kid has to go off and fight.

The question should be: what are you willing to be tolerant of and to what degree?

[davyteacher]

And they want to set up a muslim school in England, very multi-culture.

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[bigverne]

Excellent letter about the effects of multiculturalism on the UK, and its relations with its muslim minority.

Minority groups, especially those from the Indian sub-continent, were encouraged not to integrate or mix, but to keep their own customs as though the UK did not exist. The results can be seen in London, in the northern English cities and, to a much lesser extent, in Glasgow and Edinburgh.

This society within a society has been encouraged to revel in its alleged victimhood, and, due to its lack of maturity, has never looked at its own faults but blames outsiders for all its ills. Until these people can think of themselves as Scots or English who are Muslim by religion rather than Muslims who live in Scotland or England we will have no peace.

Muslims seem to be in a constant state of anger. This foments religious fundamentalism or the predictable ranting of the tiresome Aamer Anwar. The day that Muslims can accept rational criticism without the predictable cries of "Islamophobia" will be the day when they are finally accepted into British society like the descendants of other immigrant groups over the centuries.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/44544-print.shtml

[dulouz]

Verne, you ask why they keep coming the answer is its because of the cash. The UK has the most generous welfare benefits in the world. The only requirement being is that you have Labor friendly opinions. I get really tired of hearing about this "accomplishment" the propagandists go on and on again. If you instead send people to some barren miserable place without cash incentives, no one shows up and this whole mcultism falls apart. Its the most selfish motive being disguised and the best.

The second point is Arab propensity to accuse and the popularity of conspiracy theories. Its a trait often discussed by Western journalists that live in the Mid East for a long time.

Christian dogma asserts that "Thou shalt not bare false witness". That means you don't accuse people unless you have a very solid argument. Muslims don't have that commandment or comprable rule, thus its likely don't have a problem in engaging in accusatory and excessive whiney behavior. Further, accusations have weight and we take them seriously becuase we know that the people making them are very serious about their intent and have good evidence. Now they don't.

Whether you are a practising Christian or not, you have been conditioned to obey that commandment and its a hard habit to break. It is a weakness.

Accusations do carry weight and often are a whole trial by themselves. We know that a trial must occur and arguments and evidence must be presented but in reality if someone stands up in a crowd and points at you and calls you a "pervert", you are pretty much a pervert in everyones eyes from then on. Its the power of accusation and one that people were reluctant to use until recently.

One more question of foreign religions in Europe. Europe doesn't have a history of foreign religions. How then, do those adherents assimilate. You can either be Christian or secular. Assimilating by making the natives change isn't assimilation.

[AdamH]

Multiculturalism: Isn't that those "fusion" meals you can buy in Korea where they give you greasy coke and cold chicken nuggets?

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