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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject: Is this country a joke? |
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http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/08/13/200508130017.asp
President Roh Moo-hyun will grant special Liberation Day pardons for more than 4.22 million people, including scores of politicians and former government officials convicted of corruption and election law violations.
Jeez.. how many people live in this freakin country??? Isn't that like 1/3rd of the population of Seoul? |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Must be an election coming very soon... |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think over 4 million were traffic law offenders. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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World Cup amnesty for traffic offenders
Drivers who received black marks under the Traffic Regulation Law before June 30 will be eliminated from the blacklist. Additionally, those whose licenses were revoked or suspended for 1 to 5 years will be exempted from further punishment.
These changes reflect the government's desire to maintain the festive mood of the World Cup and to celebrate the national team's advance to the semifinal. The government announced the decision after a state affairs meeting on Tuesday. Drivers with suspended licenses may retrieve their cards from local police stations regardless of the amount of time remaining in the suspension period. Fines related to the offense must still be paid, however.
JoongAng Ilbo (July 9, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200207/09/200207092343293009900090409041.html
[Editorials] Be prudent with pardons
And pardons on Independence Day and National Liberation Day have become almost annual events. Even during this month, 4.8 million traffic law violators have been granted pardons along with 508,000 minor debtors in celebration of the World Cup.
JoongAng Ilbo (July 22, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200207/22/200207222233028049900090109011.html
Pardon is largest since 1998: Sentences of 125,000 civil servants annulled
The government will pardon 151,122 people convicted of crimes and violations of election-related laws, the Justice Ministry announced yesterday. It has been customary for the ministry to grant such pardons each year to mark Aug. 15, Liberation Day. It is the largest pardon for civil servants since 1998, when former President Kim Dae-jung granted a sweeping amnesty to about 160,000 civil servants.
by Jeon Jin-bae, JoongAng Daily (August 13, 2003)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200308/13/200308130212365009900090309031.html
World's Longest-Serving Political Prisoner Granted Amnesty
The government on February 22 released the names of the 8,812 people who will be freed from prison or reinstated with full rights to run for office or attain a government position. The amnesty or pardons will officially come into effect on February 25 in honor of President Kim Dae Jung's first-year anniversary in office.
JoongAng Daily (February 22, 1999)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/199902/22/199902220000040349900090409041.html |
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funplanet

Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Who says crime doesn't pay???
No wonder there is no respect for the rule of law in this wonderful country |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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denverdeath wrote: |
Must be an election coming very soon... |
The president of Korea can only serve one five year term. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Boo-sahn
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:41 am Post subject: |
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chiaa wrote: |
denverdeath wrote: |
Must be an election coming very soon... |
The president of Korea can only serve one five year term. |
Yes. What about a position afterwards? What about all the people perceiving him as such a wonderful, forgiving president? |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:51 am Post subject: |
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funplanet wrote: |
Who says crime doesn't pay???
No wonder there is no respect for the rule of law in this wonderful country |
Yet God forbid us waegooks teach for one day without a visa. Right, Homer? |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for saying that. |
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Cymro
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Now, I understand something my girlfriend at the time was going on about last year.
Though she liked Noh Moo-hyun, she wouldn't have minded seeing his impeachment go through as she could have got her drivers' licence back.
I thought it couldn't possibly be true. We're not together anymore, but I'm guessing she'll be among the 4,200,000 traffic-law-violating drivers to be let back on the road because ...well, why exactly?
Seriously, if 4.2million proven bad drivers are getting a nice little independence day gift, what are the millions of good drivers getting?
Is there anywhere else in the world that does this? (I mean among developed/developing countries.)
I've few complaints about Korea and it's people lately, but this is lunacy. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:49 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with the lunacy comment....
So i can go out and drive like a fool and know that every 3 or 4 years all my stupidity will be wiped away because of some government goodwill gesture....
Why would you ever pay your speeding tickets???
It looks to me also like an excuse to lessen the police workload as well.. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Is there anywhere else in the world that does this? (I mean among developed/developing countries.) |
As far as I know, the President of the United States is allowed to pardon anyone he wants, and pardons have been granted, quite legally, to rather dubious individuals who made substantial campaign contributions. I seem to recall Clinton's pardons being an issue in the 2000 presidential election. And of course Ford pardoned Nixon.
Americans can correct me if I'm wrong about all this. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote: |
I seem to recall Clinton's pardons being an issue in the 2000 presidential election. And of course Ford pardoned Nixon.
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Clinton got into an eleventh-hour pardon spree. I'm not very well informed on this issue, at least not enough to discuss the details of it. But I believe he did draw some fire for his choices. You're right, above, it is the prerogative of the President to pardon anyone, it's legal.
Ford did indeed pardon Nixon, but Haldeman and others went to jail. Ford's pardon of Nixon was a complicated affair, as the image of a president behind bars is not a very good one. (Remember, the President is an institution more than a person.)
Reagan did not pardon North or the others involved in Iran-Contra, I recall.
I think that traffic violations fall strictly within the juristiction of the individual states, and I don't know, but I doubt that the President could pardon four million traffic violators or white collar criminals (corruption). So the President probably has limits -- not necessarily legal, but political -- on who and how many he can pardon.
One thing that I'm curious about in this thread: how many of those millions who are getting their driving privileges back in one easy sweep lost their licenses for driving while intoxicated? I don't think any U.S. president could get away with pardoning even one DUI.
I already know that no president may pardon someone convicted of domestic violence -- you can no longer buy or own a firearm in the U.S. if you are arrested, charged, or convicted for domestic violence. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Is this country a joke?
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yes ONE BIG FUCKING JOKE!!! |
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