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Foreign Wives to Get Legal Aid; Permanent residency
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Foreign Wives to Get Legal Aid; Permanent residency Reply with quote

Foreign Wives to Get Legal Aid
Permanent residency status will be given to foreigners who have divorced their Korean husbands from next month if they have stayed for more than two years in the country, officials said Tuesday. Cabinet ministers adopted a set of measures to help foreigners, especially foreign wives, during a meeting presided over by Health and Welfare Minister Kim Geun-tae.

"The measures are designed to improve the quality of living for foreign women who marry Koreans," said an official at the Ministry of Health and Welfare.

"Many Korean husbands intentionally abuse their wives' unstable status by not guaranteeing their identification after getting married, and threatening to turn their wife in as an illegal immigrant," she explained.
By Kim Cheong-won, Korea Times (August 16, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200508/kt2005081619243210160.htm

1. What do you think about a husband that intentionally abuses his wife's unstable status (and threatens to turn his wife in as an illegal immigrant)?
2. What about legal aid and permanent residency for foreign men that marry Korean women?


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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Cool.

1. What do you think about a husband that intentionally abuses his wife's unstable status (and threatens to turn his wife in as an illegal immigrant)?

2. What about legal aid and permanent residency for foreign men that marry Korean women?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

next they'll be paying foreign women to marry korean guys.

oops?!! they already are? Jinja??
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The message couldn't be clearer that the government is bigotted against foreign men who are married to Korean women.
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the governments action are a result of korean men beating and miss treating their foreign wives. by doing these actions they are helping to protect these women. I don't mind that they are doing this. IT would be nice to see the same things extended to foreign husbands too.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulsanchris wrote:
the governments action are a result of korean men beating and miss treating their foreign wives. by doing these actions they are helping to protect these women. I don't mind that they are doing this. IT would be nice to see the same things extended to foreign husbands too.


Agreed. This is a nice step. I would like to see the next one taken.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
tzechuk wrote:
Cool.

1. What do you think about a husband that intentionally abuses his wife's unstable status (and threatens to turn his wife in as an illegal immigrant)?

2. What about legal aid and permanent residency for foreign men that marry Korean women?


RR....

1. For me it's disgusting. This usually happens, unfortunately, to wives from the Philipines. You can read for yourself here: www.iskakorea.com. Go to our forum and read some of the posts.

The most recent one being a young Filipina with a deceased husband whose father took away all their money and threaten to kick the daughter-in-law out of their rented home, so he can get the key money.

2. Legal aid I think should be given to everyone. As for pr.. well, considering the fact that Korea thinks foreign men are just that, it will be unlikely for them to grant pr to men based on their marital status. Whereas for women, Koreans think that once you are married to the man, you *belong* to that family. Actually, not just for Korea... a couple of friends of mine who married to Koreans changed their surnames to that of their husbands', myself included and I think that's pretty indicative of how we are perceived.

I don't know if I am making sense. I am a zombie. Letty is ill and I've been up since 6... zzzzzz
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Hyalucent



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:

1. For me it's disgusting. This usually happens, unfortunately, to wives from the Philipines. You can read for yourself here: www.iskakorea.com. Go to our forum and read some of the posts.



First thing I notice:

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Some days it feels like a war.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very suspicious of the intentions behind this law. But, the message is clear that they don't want foreign men to marry Korean men. Is it really a democracy when a government passes discriminatory laws such as this one?
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, the message is clear that they don't want foreign men to marry Korean men.


I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself here. The same-sex marriage thing generally comes after a country normalises relations with its neighbours and builds an egalitarian, pluralist society. We're about 500 years behind that as far as I can see.

That said, it would be the logical conclusion of this human rights thing.
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inkoreaforgood



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
I'm very suspicious of the intentions behind this law. But, the message is clear that they don't want foreign men to marry Korean men. Is it really a democracy when a government passes discriminatory laws such as this one?


Something else you want to tell us?! Shocked

Wink

The plight of foreign women married to Korean men here is getting ridiculous. What I mean by that is women from third world countries are coming here to marry loser farm boys who are in their 40s and have no idea how to treat a woman at all. Often, physical and mental abuse are heaped on these women. Been in the news enough that finally the gov't did something halfway decent. Eventually, this will extend to foreign men married to Korean women, but for now this is a bandage on a serious problem here in Korea.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Eventually, this will extend to foreign men married to Korean women


Right about the time Koreans stop eating kimchi.
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nrvs



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't desperately poor women from Southeast Asian countries marrying Koreans for financial reasons a bit different than middle-class men from the richest nations on earth marrying Koreans out of choice?
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why give them permanent residency? I mean for what!?
its a strange thing to do from immigration.. they treat foreign men who are married to korean woman like 3d statues. THE LITTLE BITTER MEN!
but when a korean guy gets a foreign woman they treat him and her like gold! like he has scored a homer! but us we get nothing more than name calling...

I remember my encounter back in 97when I got married..
I asked the dude at immigration, so I can legally work here now?
I can apply for permanent residency?
the dude at immigration said..
no you dont get any rights here! why should you get any rights?
IM 22 at the time. and remember growing up my country and always seeing the news how we gave foreigners all the rights we had blar blar
so I just ASSUMED!!! it was give and take!!
I then said.. I believe all the koreans who go abroad to USA get the american rights dont they??
he didnt like my tone he said!
and he said! JUST take your wife to your country ok! we dont want you here!

now I was 22.. but I was a real smart ass at that age! and I have government workers and always have..
so I said it him! naa I think I will stay here and keep sleeping with all the girls!! hahhahah then he said!
you are married!!
I said. so thats not your problem! what I do while married! so you had better watch your daughter!! hahhahha
then left he was FUMING!!!! Laughing
serves him right!! he started it!!
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