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seoulmon

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: Seoul
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buddy bradley

Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Location: The Beyond
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Advice, clown. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Renting a clown for a date. Brilliant!
Advice, magician. Or hire a juggler. But definitely not one of the guys on stilts. I heard that they can be assholes. |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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That advice is all screwed up, because it assumes your first date will be a cliche "dinner in a nice restaurant" date -- the absolute worst kind of date. Why do people think that kind of date works? It's just a way to throw away money and bore the hell out of both people. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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dinner in a restaurant works because it's intimate with just the two of you, but in a public place. There's something to do (eat) if conversation lags, and you can drink booze.
Where would you suggest that's better? |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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"Jane magazine is a snarky glossy for girls, and they have published some golden prose. The article I am reminded of was from August of this year, and road-tests relationship advice from ivillage, Redbook, Cosmo, etc.
Here are some highlights:
Conveniently 'forget' to take your favorite shoes of when you slip out of your lingerie.
... "Um, babe, what are you doing?" he whispers in my ear as I climb onto the duvet. Apparently, even without white sweat socks, the sneakers are still a tad distracting.
You don't need to lose weight to get a date. Just increase your likeability factor.
..."You look a little tired. Would you like me to cut your meat for you" I ask with a toothy grin. Since Todd isn't really eating his food, I try to entice him by offering a scoop of creamed spinach--on my finger. "No, thank you," he insists and turns away.
Forget the coquettish eye flutter: locking eyes can intensify your bond.
When he finally asks for my number, I take the opportunity to really burn my eyes into his, just like a hypnotist I once saw on The Maury Povich Show. But instead of swooning under my love spell, he looks uncomfortable. "Is there something in my teeth?" he asks.
Give your guy explicit directions in wash-off marker all over your body. When he undresses you, he'll find a map to all your pleasure points.
"What's on your arm? Did you bruise yourself?" Seems washable markers don't glow in the dark. I turn on the lights so he can properly read my directions. "Oh, I see. Next time, you need to work on your handwriting," he says. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
That advice is all screwed up, because it assumes your first date will be a cliche "dinner in a nice restaurant" date -- the absolute worst kind of date. Why do people think that kind of date works? It's just a way to throw away money and bore the hell out of both people. |
it might be a bit cliche, but cliches are cliches because they are done over and over again... things are done over and over again because they are tried, tested, and work. which leads us back to where we were.
so, it depends on the 'datee' whether the dinner date works or not. for instance, i always like to joke about how 'cliche' this date is and thank the girl in advance for paying for me. girls get right on that sorta stuff.  |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Swiss James wrote: |
dinner in a restaurant works because it's intimate with just the two of you, but in a public place. There's something to do (eat) if conversation lags, and you can drink booze.
Where would you suggest that's better? |
It's a terrible date because nothing happens to you, there's no stimulus to react to. You're expected to spontaneously generate conversation from your core, and since there's nothing going on around you, you're judged 100% on your ability as a conversationalist and your good looks. Unless you're a comedian, you probably can't be funny spontaneously.
Any kind of an activity date, even if it's as simple as going to a bar with some dancing, or going shopping on a pedestrian shopping street, is going to have lots of stuff to see, do, talk about, and laugh about. It's much easier to be charming and funny if there's stuff in the environment you can react to.
Finally, it costs a lot of money to eat out, and it takes a lot of time. If you don't like the girl, you can't back out gracefully for at least 30-45 minutes.
So if you're Brad Pitt or Jon Stewart, go with the dinner date and stun her with your good looks or spontaneous joke-telling. But if you're a normal guy, do ANYTHING else. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I think you've just told us more about yourself than you intended to Joe |
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joe_doufu

Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Swiss James wrote: |
I think you've just told us more about yourself than you intended to Joe |
Do you? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Swiss James wrote: |
dinner in a restaurant works because it's intimate with just the two of you, but in a public place. There's something to do (eat) if conversation lags, and you can drink booze.
Where would you suggest that's better? |
I don't know too many women that would say no to a nice free meal, especially if there is a promise of some sparkling dinner conversation. Now a movie date is probably the worst first date thingy as you spend 1/3-1/2 the date not talking. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I really hate this kind of thread, but can't help chiming in.
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if you��ve met online; ��You��re even lovelier than I remembered�� if you met in person. If the word ��lovely�� doesn��t trip off your tongue, try ��cute��—the goal here is to say something flattering and sincere. |
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it helps to have flowers in hand. |
Reminds me of the Beano, Walter and the softies.
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for Pete��s sake, insist that she have the last yummy bite of dessert. |
chortle chortle.
Why not just cut through all this facade chaps, and tell her you so need a girlfriend, as you're soooo lonely and beyond this macho exterior, there is a lost, lonely boy, crying into his lonely pillow each night. Tell her how often you masterbate. It's best to be honest about how you feel. She'll respect you for it.
"You're even lovelier than I remembered"
Christ.
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Swiss James wrote: |
Where would you suggest that's better? |
Love Motel. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:10 am Post subject: |
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joe_doufu wrote: |
Swiss James wrote: |
I think you've just told us more about yourself than you intended to Joe |
Do you? |
the image of a cheap, unfunny, ugly person without no conversation skills did happen to pop into my mind. but i'm probably reading too much into your post.
i agree that a movie is a bad idea. the more talking and interacting you can cram in, the better. even if it makes the girl like you less, it's a good thing, because it tells you she's not the one for you. i tend walk out of a movie thinking, "now what did she say she did for a living?"
i never really do the formal date thing. i avoid really expensive restaurants, and sure as hell don't give any flowers or wear a suit or any of that crap. and a lot of girls here will try to pay dutch, or even the whole bill, and i don't argue with that either. i dunno, i just keep it casual. formal dinners and flowers and stuff are for girlfriends. what do you think? |
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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: |
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A bottle of soju in the park.
- It's cheap. I don't buy the shit, but I think it's a buck or 2. Throw in a couple of bags of ojinga chips and you've got a meal.
- You can play some music on her cellphone.
- It's Korean - you'll impress the hell out of her with your cultural awareness.
- You can talk all night w/o being interrupted...much.
- If things work out you can have sex right there in the sand and tell your friends that you had sex on the beach.
- If either or both of you are ugly as sin it won't matter because you can hardly see each other.
What's not to like about this date. It's got everything you need. It's a winner. You're welcome.  |
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