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PaperTiger



Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: It DID happen.... Reply with quote

http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/10/134638/70

LOS ANGELES, November 9, 2004 - At 7:50 PM two armored tanks showed up at an anti-war protest in front of the federal building in Westwood. The tanks circled the block twice, the second time parking themselves in the street and directly in front of the area where most of the protesters were gathered. Enraged, some of the people attempted to block the tanks, but police quickly cleared the street. The people continued to protest the presence of the tanks, but about ten minutes the tanks drove off. It is unclear as to why the tanks were deployed to this location.

This was at an anti-Bush demonstration. Still wanna talk about how great Bush is? So...this is a sign things are getting better? We have more freedom than ever to assemble and dissent?
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, well, I was in DC for a Christian men's rally years before W came around, and they brought out armored riot vehicles then too. Granted, they weren't tanks, but still....

Peacenik rallies and Christian revivals. Violence and mayhem just waiting to happen.

God save the King.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said before, I suspect they're just using the opportunities to test out their new equipment. Who really thinks they would fire on the crowd like the Chinese army did? I'm sure those protesters walked right up to the things and rapped on the sides of them. They were seeking attention and trying to pretend they were victims of an oppressive government. The police were trying to get practice deploying their new toys against mobs of lunatics. They both achieved their goals - win/win solution!
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Yes, I'd say that video proves your point conclusively- congratulations.

BTW, this was sarcasm.


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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Who really thinks they would fire on the crowd like the Chinese army did?


Does anyone remember Kent State in the 1970's??
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/118865_comment.php#118896

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Citizen
by Steve Monday, Nov. 08, 2004 at 8:00 PM



I wasn't there at the Tuesday night demonstration in Westwood, but I did do some follow-up investigation this morning about the two armored vehicles.

Turns out the West Los Angeles Veterans Administration was having a Veterans Day parade and celebration this morning (Wednesday). I drove over and walked in to the WLA VA to look around at 10:50am.

Lots of marching middle school ROTC "cadets" (including 11-to-14-year-old boys and girls from Mt. Vernon Middle School all in US Army uniform, some shouldering parade "rifles") and a high school band and antique cars filled with VAFW members. And two USMC Striker armored vehicles complete with 6 or 7 Marines in fatigues and body armor giving junior high ROTC kids and adults tours of the vehicles.

I talked to one Marine with one of the "Striker" vehicles. He told me they had driven the vehicles up from Camp Pendleton the night before (Tuesday) on the freeway. Getting off the 405 Freeway North taking the Wilshire East (instead of WEST to the VA) offramp, they would have passed Wilshire and Veteran where the anti-war rally was underway protesting the attack on Fallujah in Iraq.

I asked him if he was "rolling around Westwood" Tuesday night. He said, "Yeah, and we drove past that anti-war demonstration. We was lost. We're not from L.A. We didn't know where this place (WLA VA) was. We were trying to find it."

"Did you drive around the block twice?" I asked.

"Yeah, we did. We stopped to ask them (the protestors) directions, but they weren't very nice."


There was more conversation, but that was the gist of it from the Marine side concerning the armored vehicles. For what it's worth.

I've also been receiving emails from friends who were at the rally who tell me the LAPD officers said they had no idea why the Striker armored vehicles had shown up.



That's what 5 seconds of googling pulled up.
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
As I said before, I suspect they're just using the opportunities to test out their new equipment. Who really thinks they would fire on the crowd like the Chinese army did? I'm sure those protesters walked right up to the things and rapped on the sides of them. They were seeking attention and trying to pretend they were victims of an oppressive government. The police were trying to get practice deploying their new toys against mobs of lunatics. They both achieved their goals - win/win solution!


Ha ha! You're sick! Very Happy

Thunndarr, that's an interesting article.
Buthow reliable is that paper?
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um...

Yeah. The tanks rolled out to stop the protesters. Oh, my bad. The tanks were already out.

I come from a small town, but on Veterans Day even we get the tanks.

Veterans' Day (formerly Armistice Day) November 11, is the anniversary of the Armistice which was signed in the Forest of Compiegne by the Allies and the Germans in 1918, ending World War I, after four years of conflict.

Didn't this happen on November 9, 2004 ? Seem like what everyone else is saying is true... Both sides love some propaganda...
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave the forum for a week and everything goes right in the crapper. Amazing. I'm going to have to do some catching up on what's been happening here this week.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread makes absolutely no sense unless you have read the thread it came from:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=43576
And even then it still makes very little sense.
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Alan_Partridge



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: in the posh part of town

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi...
bulsajo...what is your new avatar...genuinely interested, but aware I'm slightly off-topic...
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for reminding me, there's now a link in my signature.
From the webpage:

Quote:
The Animaris Rhinoceros Transport is a type of animal with a steel skeleton and a polyester skin. It looks as if there is a thick layer of sand coating the animal. It weighes 2. tons, but can be set into motion by one person. It stands 4.70 meters tall. Because of its height it catches enough wind to start moving.
It can be seen at www.strandbeest.com
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Alan_Partridge



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

strange....but interesting!!
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH!!! It walks! I thought it looked like something out of Battletech.

That's pretty tight.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the Netherlands for you- engineers + marijauna = really freaky stuff.
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