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I had to sign the same contract again today. Huh?

 
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: I had to sign the same contract again today. Huh? Reply with quote

My boss came to me and said we needed to sign an exact copy of the contract again today, because Immigration ordains it so. She wasn't the manager at the time I was hired, she was a teacher and was promoted to manager just before I arrived, so the old manager's name is on the contract. (I'm beginning to suspect she is actually the new owner, though she's implied that she isn't.)

Anyway immigration apparently had a problem with that so we re-signed a duplicate of the original contract today. I pored over it to find any changes, but the only changes were a fixed typo and the addition of a clause stating that income tax is 5%. They've been deducting this much all along so that's not a real change. I was afraid this would push my finishing date back to one year from today, but no, it has the same start and finish date of the old contract.

Anybody else had to to do this? Do you buy it? I've got copies of both contracts and seriously I can't see any trick.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immigration keeps a signed copy.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds like something that would come from Immigration. They want all the paperwork to match as to date and signature. (On one occasion, when filing all the paperwork with immigration to extend my contract for another year, they discovered a date error made at the Wonjangnim's lawyer's office. It took two extra hours to get all the paperwork redone and corrected for immigration even though it was an obvious typo.)

Correcting the contract is probably to the benefit of both you and your manager (owner?). It would be much more difficult, perhaps impossible, to pursue any action against a new manager, and especially a new owner, under the old contract. You would first need to establish constructively that the new parties had stepped into the shoes of the old. Hopefully everything will procede smoothly and the whole thing will be moot.

I think you should find out who the owner is though. It your manager won't level with you, you should have a Korean friend contact the local Kyo yook chong (����û) . They should who know the actual owner is.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would have done was gone to the immigration office and ask them! Simple enough to do....
"Hey immigration folks...the school is telling me you need ANOTHER signed copy of my contract...why?"
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: I had to sign the same contract again today. Huh? Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
My boss came to me and said we needed to sign an exact copy of the contract again today, because Immigration ordains it so. She wasn't the manager at the time I was hired, she was a teacher and was promoted to manager just before I arrived, so the old manager's name is on the contract. (I'm beginning to suspect she is actually the new owner, though she's implied that she isn't.)

Anyway immigration apparently had a problem with that so we re-signed a duplicate of the original contract today. I pored over it to find any changes, but the only changes were a fixed typo and the addition of a clause stating that income tax is 5%. They've been deducting this much all along so that's not a real change. I was afraid this would push my finishing date back to one year from today, but no, it has the same start and finish date of the old contract.

Anybody else had to to do this? Do you buy it? I've got copies of both contracts and seriously I can't see any trick.

Income tax is 3%, not 5%.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tax rate varies depending on what you make.

Taxes to be withheld off of 2.0 mil won are about 28,000 won per month

5% Shocked you can bet your bottom dollar that the other 62,000 isnt going to the tax office....as a matter of fact that comes out to 744,000 won they STEAL from you over the year.

But if you want to sit back and let them then thats your choice. Personally I dont put up with crap like that Exclamation
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
The tax rate varies depending on what you make.

Taxes to be withheld off of 2.0 mil won are about 28,000 won per month

5% Shocked you can bet your bottom dollar that the other 62,000 isnt going to the tax office....as a matter of fact that comes out to 744,000 won they STEAL from you over the year.

But if you want to sit back and let them then thats your choice. Personally I dont put up with crap like that Exclamation


the base tax rate only applies to an employee who is enrolled in the pension and medical insurance programs. if you don't subscribe to either, your tax rate is about 5%...as in my case.... and i checked it out, all is legal.
so if the OP is not getting medical and pension deductions, the 5% tax rate sounds right.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
What I would have done was gone to the immigration office and ask them! Simple enough to do....
"Hey immigration folks...the school is telling me you need ANOTHER signed copy of my contract...why?"


Not everyone lives close enough to an immigration office to do that. He may have to take a day off work in order to do it. It depends where he is.

I suffered from that very situation last year, in which case, taking the day off would have been considered a violation of my contract. Shocked

Anyway, hope things all work out for the OP.

Cheers
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