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Are you offended by the constant "foreigner" tag? |
Yes |
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On a bad day |
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A little bit |
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No |
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buddy bradley

Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Location: The Beyond
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Jesus. What is wrong with you people?
No, really; I'm serious - are you all Canadian or something? |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Do you take offense to always being called foreigner? |
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Gord wrote: |
Qinella wrote: |
It's a little offensive, yes. What do you think? |
No. You're a foreigner. It's not a derogatory expression in Korea. |
True.
That ignores the fact, though, that Koreans outside Korea will also refer to non-Koreans in their own native lands as "foreigners".
But apart from that, from the perspective of those from North America, it does grate a bit because it goes against our practice.
Did you ever have non-Canadian citizen customers in your store? If so, did you habitually refer to them as "foreigners"? |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.
The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Crisp and to the point as ever SJ.
So, far from being rude or insulting, "waegug sonsaengnim" is a politeness. |
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pet lover
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Location: not in Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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So, in that case, they should be referring to the Korean teachers as "Hangook sonsaengnim" and not just "sonsaengnim". Unless of course, they want to refer to us as "sonsaengnim".  |
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betchay
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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i'm married to a korean and while my husband's family would often say that "you're now a korean" (because they think i married a korean, and therefore i'm korean) and they truly treat me nicely, there's still that "gap"... anyway, i don't really feel offended whenever people say that i'm a "wae-gook" (or outsider)... in fact, i really like it that i'm an outsider |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Swiss James wrote: |
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.
The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'. |
What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)? |
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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buddy bradley wrote: |
Jesus. What is wrong with you people?
No, really; I'm serious - are you all Canadian or something? |
Canadian??? Why, no, sir!
I am an English speaking caucasian... Therefore, I am American... |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
Swiss James wrote: |
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.
The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'. |
What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)? |
I hoped no-one would ask because that's where my argument falls down. They call me
"���ӽ�"
"Jay-im-suh"
or sometimes
������
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Swiss James wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
Swiss James wrote: |
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.
The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'. |
What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)? |
I hoped no-one would ask because that's where my argument falls down. They call me
"���ӽ�"
"Jay-im-suh"
or sometimes
������
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Not ��Ӹ� ������?  |
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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