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Do you take offense to always being called foreigner?
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Are you offended by the constant "foreigner" tag?
Yes
18%
 18%  [ 12 ]
On a bad day
28%
 28%  [ 19 ]
A little bit
13%
 13%  [ 9 ]
No
39%
 39%  [ 26 ]
Total Votes : 66

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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus. What is wrong with you people?

No, really; I'm serious - are you all Canadian or something?
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you take offense to always being called foreigner? Reply with quote

Gord wrote:
Qinella wrote:
It's a little offensive, yes. What do you think?


No. You're a foreigner. It's not a derogatory expression in Korea.


True.

That ignores the fact, though, that Koreans outside Korea will also refer to non-Koreans in their own native lands as "foreigners".

But apart from that, from the perspective of those from North America, it does grate a bit because it goes against our practice.

Did you ever have non-Canadian citizen customers in your store? If so, did you habitually refer to them as "foreigners"?
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.

The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crisp and to the point as ever SJ.

So, far from being rude or insulting, "waegug sonsaengnim" is a politeness.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, in that case, they should be referring to the Korean teachers as "Hangook sonsaengnim" and not just "sonsaengnim". Unless of course, they want to refer to us as "sonsaengnim". Razz
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betchay



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm married to a korean and while my husband's family would often say that "you're now a korean" (because they think i married a korean, and therefore i'm korean) and they truly treat me nicely, there's still that "gap"... anyway, i don't really feel offended whenever people say that i'm a "wae-gook" (or outsider)... in fact, i really like it that i'm an outsider
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swiss James wrote:
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.

The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'.


What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)?
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DRAMA OVERKILL



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
Jesus. What is wrong with you people?

No, really; I'm serious - are you all Canadian or something?



Canadian??? Why, no, sir!

I am an English speaking caucasian... Therefore, I am American...
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
Swiss James wrote:
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.

The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'.


What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)?


I hoped no-one would ask because that's where my argument falls down. They call me
"���ӽ�"
"Jay-im-suh"

or sometimes
������
Embarassed
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swiss James wrote:
dogbert wrote:
Swiss James wrote:
I think a few people have already mentioned this, but in Korea it's not polite to refer to someone by their given name- Qinella, Bob, whatever- it's disrespectful.

The boss here in my office is referred to as Sojangnim, the software 'team leader' is Team Jang and so on. Your role at the school is "foreign teacher"- maybe you can quibble with the exact wording of it so, but objecting to someone referring to your job title rather than name is basically saying that Korean culture is 'incorrect'.


What do they call you in Korean then (if you know enough Korean to pick it up)?


I hoped no-one would ask because that's where my argument falls down. They call me
"���ӽ�"
"Jay-im-suh"

or sometimes
������
Embarassed


Not ��Ӹ� ������? Laughing
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DRAMA OVERKILL



Joined: 12 Apr 2005