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death from above
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
new orleans is 80% covered with seven meters of water! that's so wild. can the big easy bounce back? all of my family made it out okay. anyone else on here from the area?
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I grew up in New Orleans. One of my uncles lived (lives?) in Lakeview, about 5 blocks from the 17th street levy. My aunt's beautiful house was uptown, on Pine St. My grandmother lived near the beach in Bay St. Louis-- her house was on stilts, but it was completely flattened. They all evacuated, and they are all ok, but their houses are either gone or underwater. Total loss. My family has lived in New Orleans since about 1750 or so.
I heard that they will not be able to pump out the water for at least 80 days. One of the coolest cities in the country is ruined. |
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rapier
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| RachaelRoo wrote: |
I was just watching CNN....they knew that this would happen one day. Apparently, it was well know that a category 3+ hurricane would break the levys. Didn't they have some kind of plan? Did nobody in government realize that some people might not be able to afford to leave the city? No busses, no evacutation assistance, just an -order to leave. They didn't have some kind of emergency plan concernng where these refugees could go and how thye would be fed? WTF!?
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As I posted on the other thread (Why do we need two threads to discuss the same thing?)it was all foreseen by environmentalists a long time ago, read below.
"Floodwaters from the east would carry toxic waste from the "Industrial Canal" area, nicknamed after the chemical plants there. From the west, floodwaters would flow through an industrial complex that includes refineries and chemical plants, said van Heerden, who has studied computer models about the impact of a strong hurricane for four years.
"These chemical plants [could] start flying apart, just as the other buildings do," said van Heerden. "So, we have the potential for release of benzene, hydrochloric acid, chlorine and so on." ( See the video report of how gasoline and unearthed coffins might worsen the situation)
Such a scenario could result in severe air and water pollution, he said.
In New Orleans, which lies below sea level, gas and diesel tanks are all above ground for the same reason that bodies are buried above ground.
In the event of a flood, "those tanks will start to float, shear their couplings, and we'll have the release of these rather volatile compounds," van Heerden added.
Because gasoline floats on water, "we could end up with some pretty severe and large -- area-wise -- fires."
http://environment.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/katrina.doomsday/index.html
As I also noted on the other thread- water levels have risen 15-25cm worldwide in the past 100years thanks to global warming, and the accelerated projections of their further rise make N.O an unviable future city. many human settlements around the world are facing similar problems. |
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RachaelRoo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| RachaelRoo wrote: |
I was just watching CNN....they knew that this would happen one day. Apparently, it was well know that a category 3+ hurricane would break the levys. Didn't they have some kind of plan? Did nobody in government realize that some people might not be able to afford to leave the city? No busses, no evacutation assistance, just an -order to leave. They didn't have some kind of emergency plan concernng where these refugees could go and how thye would be fed? WTF!?
Anyone know more details? |
As I posted on the other thread (Why do we need two threads to discuss the same thing?)it was all foreseen by environmentalists a long time ago, read below.
"Floodwaters from the east would carry toxic waste from the "Industrial Canal" area, nicknamed after the chemical plants there. From the west, floodwaters would flow through an industrial complex that includes refineries and chemical plants, said van Heerden, who has studied computer models about the impact of a strong hurricane for four years.
"These chemical plants [could] start flying apart, just as the other buildings do," said van Heerden. "So, we have the potential for release of benzene, hydrochloric acid, chlorine and so on." ( See the video report of how gasoline and unearthed coffins might worsen the situation)
Such a scenario could result in severe air and water pollution, he said.
In New Orleans, which lies below sea level, gas and diesel tanks are all above ground for the same reason that bodies are buried above ground.
In the event of a flood, "those tanks will start to float, shear their couplings, and we'll have the release of these rather volatile compounds," van Heerden added.
Because gasoline floats on water, "we could end up with some pretty severe and large -- area-wise -- fires."
http://environment.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/katrina.doomsday/index.html
As I also noted on the other thread- water levels have risen 15-25cm worldwide in the past 100years thanks to global warming, and the accelerated projections of their further rise make N.O an unviable future city. many human settlements around the world are facing similar problems. |
Ok, but what was the plan concerning the evacuation and the people who would be left in the city? Just tell everyone to leave and hope every single one can and does? |
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