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Korean is a useless language.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:30 am    Post subject: Korean is a useless language. Reply with quote

This is a comment Brachy posted in another thread. I didn't want to derail the thread, so I thought I'd make a new one to request clarity on this opinion.

It's my opinion that, if you are living in Korea, the Korean language is extremely useful. It's the polar opposite of useless. Just like if you were living in France, French would be useful.

But, perhaps there's some logic behind this seemingly byeongshin statement. I'm all ears! How is Korean a useless language, especially for people living in Korea, and which languages are not useless?

Cheers,
Q~
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean is not useless. It depends on what you intend to use it for. If you want to use Korean for work, you have to stay focused and persue your goals.
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A language that 46 million (plus) people speak is certainly not useless. If you are a foreigner living in Korea then it would make things A LOT easier if you could speak it also.
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ubum



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any language skills are not useless. Yes, if you are here for just a year and go back home to your small hometown, populations 568. Then Korean isn��t as useful to you as it may be for others. But, it definitely isn��t a useless language.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was the poster's criteria for useless? If you're going to live and die in Korea, then it's pretty useful. It would make my life easier here boning up on this useless language. French is a fairly useful language, it's a popular second language and helps learning other romance languages like Spanish and Italian.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
What was the poster's criteria for useless?


That's what I'd like to find out. I've the feeling Brachy is one of these foreign teachers who can't even order delivery food to their apartment, but still persist in calling the language useless.

I wish those types of people would choke on a pickle.

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If you're going to live and die in Korea, then it's pretty useful. It would make my life easier here boning up on this useless language. French is a fairly useful language, it's a popular second language and helps learning other romance languages like Spanish and Italian.


What about Swahili, or Ido, or Russian? I mean.. my point is that it's atrocious to label any language as useless, unless you consider the expansion of one's brain to be inane.
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yesterday's child



Joined: 26 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indeed Q. anybody monolingual knows that the language they speak is a means of survival and is anything but 'useless.' Rolling Eyes

the person claiming 'Korean' is a useless language is prolly monolingual and not too bright, anyway. Laughing
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Brachy thinks that no one, other than Korean, uses the language, thus making it useless.

I've already responded in the other thread that it is not useless, it is alive, people speak it! If there are people who speak this, then it is not useless!
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe he was only thinking in terms of business use. it is true that korean is not as usefull as maybe japanese or chinese in the buisness sense, but to say that it is entirely useless isnt correct. im sure that if you spoke fluent korean and lived outside of korean, you could make some use of it, even if it was only to have korean friends. no language is entirely useless.
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's not at all useful outside of Korea. Aside from expatriate populations here and there, Korean isn't spoken elsewhere in the world. And most overseas Koreans can speak a second language if they have to.

But it sure is fun to learn while living here. Even on a basic, "survival" level. It's nice to put a sentence together and have someone understand you. Most monolingual Koreans really appreciate even a halting effort. It makes your day-to-day life easier in so many ways.

However, the effort required in learning Korean beyond the low-intermediate level might be a wasteful exercise if you aren't planning on spending your life in the ROK.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I translate Korean into English and could do the same if I were to move to China, Iceland or Madagascar tomorrow.
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
I translate Korean into English and could do the same if I were to move to China, Iceland or Madagascar tomorrow.

That's great, and I'm not being sarcastic. I've been impressed by your language abilities on many other threads and blogs. However, how many folks make translation their life's work -- especially translation to and from Korean?

Most people engaged in other pursuits off the Korean peninsula will not find Korean language skills useful at all.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. No, not in other pursuits. One area where it might come in handy is being a politician in a place like Richmond in Canada. Even non-Korean immigrants over there, if Asian, would be impressed.

Another way to look at it is that spending over three years here and having nothing linguistically to show for it might actually be actually worse than never having come here in the first place. I'm talking about nothing though, the guys that have learned makju juseyo and maybe a dozen others. I can picture the prospective employer looking at a resume and thinking "wow, this guy spent four years in a whole other environment and has nothing to show for it. What makes him think he could adapt to the environment in my company?"
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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the CIA is offering you a job using it, then it's not useless.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little mixed girl wrote:
if the CIA is offering you a job using it, then it's not useless.


Well I'll tell you why I started studying Korean this month. I passed the US foreign service exam this year and have an interview in January. I can already boast intermediate Mandarin and French abilities, and I figure four months of intense (2 hours every weekday) Korean study will allow me to add some level of Korean to my CV in time for that interview.

I agree, Korean is mostly useless. But, for Americans who have military or diplomatic career aspirations, its a good qualification.

Also, I figure learning Korean now might help me to learn Japanese in the future.
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