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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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 Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: Iraq or the U.S.? |
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Gunmen Attack Contractors on La. Bridge
Sep 04 7:08 PM US/Eastern
NEW ORLEANS
Police shot and killed at least five people Sunday after gunmen opened fire on a group of contractors traveling across a bridge on their way to make repairs, authorities said.
Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people carrying guns, killing five or six.
Fourteen contractors were traveling across the Danziger Bridge under police escort when they came under fire, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers.
They were on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to help plug the breach in the 17th Street Canal, Hall said.
None of the contractors was killed, Hall said.
The bridge spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.
No other details were immediately available.
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/04/D8CDNSVG0.html |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe the people that opened fire on the contracters were police. In black run New Orleans, it seems anything is possible. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| More on events in New Orleans. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| shakuhachi wrote: |
| Maybe the people that opened fire on the contracters were police. In black run New Orleans, it seems anything is possible. |
Racist idiot. The Mayor of N.O. has done an amzing job in my opinion. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Racist idiot. The Mayor of N.O. has done an amzing job in my opinion. |
Time to put down the crack pipe and start reading the news. The Mayor of N.O is incompetent. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| shakuhachi wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Racist idiot. The Mayor of N.O. has done an amzing job in my opinion. |
Time to put down the crack pipe and start reading the news. The Mayor of N.O is incompetent. |
The mayor of NO did exactly what he was supposed to do: ordered the evacuation. FEMA is responsible for conducting it.
Black-run? (Work on your grammar.) Pure racist crap. Do they ban people here? I sure hope so. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Black-run? (Work on your grammar.) Pure racist crap. Do they ban people here? I sure hope so. |
There is nothing wrong with my grammar, EFLtrainer. Black controlled cities in the US are frequently described as 'black run'. I wonder why an unqualified English teacher is trying to tell me to correct my grammar. That might work on Koreans that dont know any better, but wont work on me.
The N.O Mayor is responsible for the post disaster chaos. All the police desertions in his force. The Affirmative Action hires that allowed criminals to be police as long as they were black. The N.O police looting Walmart (not an isolated incident). Far from the Mayor compentently organising an evacuation, he allowed the city buses to be flooded and unused. With the police force out of control, FEMA had to suspend some operations due to lawlessness.
In anycase, take your accusation of racism and smoke it.
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bignate
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Do they ban people here? I sure hope so. |
DO THEY EVER - It is "their" favourite past time!!!!!!!!!!!!   |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Did anyone hear the mayor of N/O of CNN when he made a dramatic outburst on a radio show? He sounded like a gangster! |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="shakuhachi"]
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Black-run? (Work on your grammar.) Pure racist crap. Do they ban people here? I sure hope so. |
There is nothing wrong with my grammar, EFLtrainer. Black controlled cities in the US are frequently described as 'black run'. |
I don't care how others use it. It should be hyphenated in the sentence you wrote.
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| I wonder why an unqualified English teacher is trying to tell me to correct my grammar. That might work on Koreans that dont know any better, but wont work on me. |
Unqualified? Do please explain.
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| The N.O Mayor is responsible for the post disaster chaos. All the police desertions in his force. |
First off, the reports of desertions may be grossly exaggerated. This is unknown at this time. Second, the mayor is NOT the police commissioner. Third, this is even less logical than blaming Bush for the flooding because he didn't fund flood control. Third, it is a FEDERAL responsibility to manage natural disasters. The police have an entirely adjunct role in such cases. Finally, some desertions are going to be expected due to sheer overwhelming misery. And more so when the federal goverment leaves a city undefended and unmanaged for three or more days!
And if your assertion had any merit whatsoever you'd have to claim desertions, treasonous attacks by our own personnel and suicides in Iraq are all Bush's fault. Ridiculous on its face except by extension: they chouldn't be there in the first place.
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| The Affirmative Action hires[/url] that allowed criminals to be police as long as they were black. |
No, you're not racist...
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| The N.O police looting Walmart (not an isolated incident). |
Looting? Are you nuts? They had no resources and commandeered what they needed! My God, man...
Oh, bloody hell... FEMA is responsible for getting troops there! The Governor is responsible for getting NG tropps there. Pull your racist head out.
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| In anycase, take your accusation of racism and smoke it. |
Hung on your own petard. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I think its time they gave over the government of America to blacks. I heard that in America all the blacks live separately from whites, in ghettos, that they don't even mix with eachother and are oppressed. A kind of Apartheid. Everywhere the different groups of Latinos, blacks etc stay separate from eachother. Seems like a racist country.
As this forum crashed yesterday i checked out the N.O message board- it was filled with Americans spouting terrible things against black people.
I'd like to see international sanctions applied to America until they allow blacks into the white house..
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| I don't care how others use it. It should be hyphenated in the sentence you wrote. |
So says you, an unqualified English teacher. If the sentence was ambiguous in its meaning, then a hyphen may have been appropriate, but it was not. In addition, use of hyphenation differs between the various nations of the English speaking countries.
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| Unqualified? Do please explain. |
Surely you are not suggesting that you are indeed qualified? I am not talking about a TEFL certificate, either.
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| First off, the reports of desertions may be grossly exaggerated. This is unknown at this time. |
The only thing that is unknown is how bad it is. From 20% to 2/3rds are said to have deserted.
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Second, the mayor is NOT the police commissioner. |
The police commissioner answers to the Mayor. The Mayor is responsible for the conduct of underlings.
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Third, this is even less logical than blaming Bush for the flooding because he didn't fund flood control. Third, it is a FEDERAL responsibility to manage natural disasters. The police have an entirely adjunct role in such cases. |
The Federal Government can handle disasters, not people shooting at helicopters.
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| Finally, some desertions are going to be expected due to sheer overwhelming misery. And more so when the federal goverment leaves a city undefended and unmanaged for three or more days! |
I thought you said the Mayor 'did an amazing job'. Now you say it was undefended and unmanaged?
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| And if your assertion had any merit whatsoever you'd have to claim desertions, treasonous attacks by our own personnel and suicides in Iraq are all Bush's fault. Ridiculous on its face except by extension: they chouldn't be there in the first place. |
What are you talking about?
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| No, you're not racist... |
Falied attempt at sarcasm? If you have a problem with what I wrote, then make a counter argument.
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| Looting? Are you nuts? They had no resources and commandeered what they needed! My God, man... |
No, its called stealing. Anyone that saw that video could see that.
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| Oh, bloody hell... FEMA is responsible for getting troops there! The Governor is responsible for getting NG tropps there. Pull your racist head out. |
Looks like you made a spelling mistake there, ESLtrainer. Crying racist wont help you win this debate. This isnt university where you can have some marxist professor put me in sensitivity training.
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| Hung on your own petard. |
Whatever. The good thing about the internet is that people will make up their own minds, regardless of how you try to label people. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| shakuhachi wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| I don't care how others use it. It should be hyphenated in the sentence you wrote. |
So says you, an unqualified English teacher. If the sentence was ambiguous in its meaning, then a hyphen may have been appropriate, but it was not. In addition, use of hyphenation differs between the various nations of the English speaking countries. |
You do realize you just contradicted yourself.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Unqualified? Do please explain. |
Surely you are not suggesting that you are indeed qualified? I am not talking about a TEFL certificate, either. |
Again, support your assertion.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| First off, the reports of desertions may be grossly exaggerated. This is unknown at this time. |
The only thing that is unknown is how bad it is. From 20% to 2/3rds are said to have deserted. |
We shall see what we shall see, but it cannot be said to be the cause of the mayor, aprticularly since he was in the trenches fighting for his city.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Second, the mayor is NOT the police commissioner. |
The police commissioner answers to the Mayor. The Mayor is responsible for the conduct of underlings. |
He is responsible only if he made no attempt to manage his city and subsequently fails to punish them shouild they return.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Third, this is even less logical than blaming Bush for the flooding because he didn't fund flood control. Third, it is a FEDERAL responsibility to manage natural disasters. The police have an entirely adjunct role in such cases. |
The Federal Government can handle disasters, not people shooting at helicopters. |
What a waste of time, but I'll repeat: the federal gov't is fully responsible for any FEDERALLY DECLARED EMERGENCY.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Finally, some desertions are going to be expected due to sheer overwhelming misery. And more so when the federal goverment leaves a city undefended and unmanaged for three or more days! |
I thought you said the Mayor 'did an amazing job'. Now you say it was undefended and unmanaged? |
Childish, unresponsive.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| And if your assertion had any merit whatsoever you'd have to claim desertions, treasonous attacks by our own personnel and suicides in Iraq are all Bush's fault. Ridiculous on its face except by extension: they chouldn't be there in the first place. |
What are you talking about? |
See above.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| No, you're not racist... |
Falied attempt at sarcasm? If you have a problem with what I wrote, then make a counter argument. |
I have.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Looting? Are you nuts? They had no resources and commandeered what they needed! My God, man... |
No, its called stealing. Anyone that saw that video could see that. |
And you claim not to be racist?
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Oh, bloody hell... FEMA is responsible for getting troops there! The Governor is responsible for getting NG tropps there. Pull your racist head out. |
Looks like you made a spelling mistake there, ESLtrainer. |
It's called a typo.
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| Crying racist wont help you win this debate. This isnt university where you can have some marxist professor put me in sensitivity training. |
When you apply an explanation of race for things that are obviously not, there are only two possible explanations: flame baiting or racism.
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| Hung on your own petard. |
Whatever. The good thing about the internet is that people will make up their own minds, regardless of how you try to label people. |
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They most certainly will. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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While you're bleating about "racism", the supposed victims of that racism are actively trying to assassinate those sent to help them.
I ask again, is this Iraq or the U.S.? |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
While you're bleating about "racism", the supposed victims of that racism are actively trying to assassinate those sent to help them.
I ask again, is this Iraq or the U.S.? |
Like I said elsewhere, the differences are not as big as we think. |
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