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Visa Runs - Double Check - May no longer be needed . . .

 
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Visa Runs - Double Check - May no longer be needed . . . Reply with quote

Before spending the big bucks and running off to Osaka, et al. - you might want to double check with your local immigration office.

A new German professor at my univeristy was all set to do the visa run - and immigration (Cheongju) was able to switch her over to an E1 here - without the visa run. They cited "new rules" that allowed them to do it.

Other than that I have no info - but it might be worth checking for those in the process.

Cross posted in the Osaka visa run sticky
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animalbirdfish



Joined: 04 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But would that apply to the E-2 visa? Worth checking, but the E-2 seems to have a litany of rules unto itself.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here 6 years on an E2 & I've changed employers & I've never done a visa run.

Can be done if your local immigration office is agreeable.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My apologies for not being clear. The visa change was from a tourist visa to an E1 - not from one employer to another.

E2? - don't know.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schwa,

How on earth did you manage to stay here for 6 years and change jobs (on an E-2 visa I imagine) without having to do a visa-run? What does one have to do in order to achieve this? I'd like to know.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I've been here 6 years on an E2 & I've changed employers & I've never done a visa run.

Can be done if your local immigration office is agreeable.



Would you care to share how this is possible?
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never done a visa run in 5 years, during which time I've changed employers three times, changed my visa from an E-2 to a D-4 (I think that's the student one) to an F-2. When I did the E-2 to student visa change some officials tried to tell me that I needed to do a visa run, but in the end it turned out it was unnecessary.

I can't explain how -- just by asking around until I got the answer I wanted, I guess.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
schwa wrote:
I've been here 6 years on an E2 & I've changed employers & I've never done a visa run.

Can be done if your local immigration office is agreeable.



Would you care to share how this is possible?


Simple renewals at the same job should never be a problem -- just a form & 30000 won. Also my experience suggests theres no limit on number of renewals.

Re: changing jobs. I simply went to my local immigration office with my new contract & a release form from my previous employer. They phoned both employers to confirm details. Everything was processed as I waited (less than half an hour).

It may have smoothed things that the contract I'd just finished & my new one fit together seamlessly -- end on a friday, start again on monday. It might also have helped that my new job was with the govt, but I'm not sure that should make a difference. Curiously, even the national headquarters of epik thought I'd have to make a visa run -- but immigration reassured me otherwise.

But to repeat the point I made in the original post, it seems to depend on your local immigration office. Lots of discussions on this forum underscore the arbitrariness of immigration decisions.

I just wanted to show that a mechanism does evidently exist to skip the run if all the details fall into place. I doubt its something you can demand or argue about, but polite inquiry might bear fruit. I always approach immigration with the attitude that they're on my side, there to help me, & they havent disappointed me yet.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
schwa wrote:
I've been here 6 years on an E2 & I've changed employers & I've never done a visa run.

Can be done if your local immigration office is agreeable.



Would you care to share how this is possible?


Simple renewals at the same job should never be a problem -- just a form & 30000 won. Also my experience suggests theres no limit on number of renewals.

Re: changing jobs. I simply went to my local immigration office with my new contract & a release form from my previous employer. They phoned both employers to confirm details. Everything was processed as I waited (less than half an hour).

It may have smoothed things that the contract I'd just finished & my new one fit together seamlessly -- end on a friday, start again on monday. It might also have helped that my new job was with the govt, but I'm not sure that should make a difference. Curiously, even the national headquarters of epik thought I'd have to make a visa run -- but immigration reassured me otherwise.

But to repeat the point I made in the original post, it seems to depend on your local immigration office. Lots of discussions on this forum underscore the arbitrariness of immigration decisions.

I just wanted to show that a mechanism does evidently exist to skip the run if all the details fall into place. I doubt its something you can demand or argue about, but polite inquiry might bear fruit. I always approach immigration with the attitude that they're on my side, there to help me, & they havent disappointed me yet.


Oh renewals are no problem, I've done that myself. But I've never heard of a case when getting a new job (changing employers) where to get an E-2 visa you DIDN"t have to go on a visa run. It might be different for holders of other visas though. Anyway that is certainly interesting information. Thanks.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Oh renewals are no problem, I've done that myself. But I've never heard of a case when getting a new job (changing employers) where to get an E-2 visa you DIDN"t have to go on a visa run. It might be different for holders of other visas though. Anyway that is certainly interesting information. Thanks.


I've heard of plenty and know a few E-2 holders who switched without making a visa run.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beav had told me about this 'no-visa-run' possibility before I changed jobs last year, yet through multiple phone calls to immigration, I was told that NOBODY gets to change jobs without a visa run. I knew otherwise, and pointed it out to them, but they said it was impossible, even though I knew otherwise.

Like Schwa says; I guess it depends on who you talk to and where...
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teachmeenglish



Joined: 14 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm one of those who changed jobs on an E2 and did it in country. No visa run.

However, this idea of a tourist to E-something sounds cool, and fits with the other changes that are said to begin today. Lets hope!!
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rvintage



Joined: 05 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also changed jobs with no visa run. It is possible if you talk to the right guy. I went with my new director and a release letter. No problem.
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matesol



Joined: 23 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed jobs from one university to another as well. Old E-2 visa transferred to the new university. I didn't have to leave. They said they can do this for universitiies, but are hesitant to do it for hagwans. (I'm not trying to huff and puff that I work at a university. They really said this. Anyway, universities in Korea are not the ivory tour that everyone thinks they are.)

If they told you, it's impossible, I think they're BSing you because they don't want to do it.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it works to change from one job to another while you're still under the original contract. Then you extend your time under the new contract. This would explain the post from Schwa who changed seamlessly.

Anyway, I changed employers before expiration of my old contract and then extended under my new contract. No visa run.
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