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Korean-American Professor Provides Grounds for Bush Foreign Policy
The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported on September 12 that John Yoo (38, photo), a Korean-American law professor of the University of California, Berkeley (UCB), has emerged as a core conservative theorist, offering theoretical grounds to the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration.

Yoo wrote the so-called "torture memo" which says there is no need to apply the Geneva Convention to terrorists when he was working for the U.S. Justice Department from 2001 to 2003. His logic at that time was, "Terrorists are different from general prisoners of war because they are not a country, and they do not conform to international agreements."
by Jong sik Kong, Donga.com (September 14, 2005)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2005091460178

[Summer Wine]

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"Terrorists are different from general prisoners of war because they are not a country, and they do not conform to international agreements."

And? Your point or observation on this would be?

[Gopher]

[Summer Wine]

Gopher. I picked up on that exact point you made. I was interested in hearing others opinions on it.

[Nowhere Man]

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[TheUrbanMyth]

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[igotthisguitar]

Canada official: Torture can be tolerated
UPI | September 15 2005

OTTAWA, Sept. 14 (UPI) -- A Canadian official, during a hearing about a Canadian citizen deported to Syria, said the country will cooperate with other nations that practice torture.

The Globe and Mail reports Canadian Security Intelligence Service lawyer Barbara McIsaac said that the government will work on anti-terrorism cases with governments that practice torture if it will save lives.

She was speaking at a commission hearing looking into Maher Arar's allegations that he was tortured while imprisoned in Syria.

The 36-year-old Syrian-born Canadian citizen was detained at New York's Kennedy Airport and deported to Syria despite his Canadian passport.

He claims he was tortured during interrogation there, until he lied that he was trained in Afghanistan by al-Qaida.
Canada was pressing for his release at the same time officials were pressing Syria for anti-terrorist intelligence.

McIsaac said the government now knows Arar was innocent and put the blame on U.S. authorities who deported him.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20050914-20135200-bc-canada-torture.xml

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[Gopher]

[igotthisguitar]

[Summer Wine]

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The problem here is that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

That should have always been considered nothing more than "political fig leaves" and politically neccesary BS. It always allowed the "they're good because they ours" or "we don't see nothing, hear nothing or know nothing" fantasy of the 20th Century.

Terrorism, the targeting of civilians for the specific result of terror, doubt of Government, political changes and counter productive actions by Societies, it is really just a fiction to call them freedom fighters. They free you by terrorising you is garbage.

But hey some people like the analogy, its really just a crass way to fight. Honour is in short supply among terrorists and recklessly endangering your supporters in the cause of battle is counter productive.

I am sorry to those who support the "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter", but look at the methods and they should tell you what crap it is.

[TheUrbanMyth]