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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks remarkably similar to Christmas, Easter and all the other pagan festivals that were replaced. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mith, I am missing your point, sorry.
Rapier, as Christians are told to turn the other cheek in the face of violence and that their reward is in the hands of God, I can't support violence in place of peace even if it kills me or others that I love.
If you want a real hardline opposite view, Nuke the world, kill everyone. If there is a God in reality, then he will create a better one. If not, well slowly strangling to death on a noose for 3 hrs vs 2 seconds of gunpowder smelling blues, well there is no question. ( a hypothetical, alcohol influenced statement, with no relevance to reality).
We all hope to be on the rope, with the hope of a last minute plea bargin, or a friend with a knife. It just doen't always work out that way. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| What I mean is that it's funny that Rapier is talking about muslims taking over holy sites from other places when even the word Easter comes from the pagan god Eostre. Replacing other religions' holy sites is a very old and established technique. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Looks remarkably similar to Christmas, Easter and all the other pagan festivals that were replaced. |
"replaced" is the wrong word I think. Such festivals, practises and traditions never died out, they continued and were absorbed in different forms. People still kiss under the misseltoe at Christmas- thats pagan, and so are many other modern day traditions.
Ancient dolmens, stone henge, and thousands of other sites were never destroyed by christians with TNT.
Would you entrust this
To their safekeeping?
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Yes, and that is where the question is. Are we the same as the muslim or the jew promoting "eye for an eye" or are we "turn the other cheek".
I don't care what non christians say as they don't live it, have to struggle daily with the difficulty of it, or have to to accept it in the face of violence. Though the truth of Christianity is "Love the Lord your God with all your body, mind, strenght, (??) etc and love your neighbor as yourself".
If you change your life, so not as to impact others, give up homosexuality, (even though you are attracted to other men), give up drinking alcohol (even though you like the taste), give up cursing (even though it touches your tounge daily), give up arguing (even though, you know you feel they are wrong).
That is real christianity. Yes, I know of the old testament. It gives justification to those who live today and act like they live in the 16th century. You have a childs manual attached to an adults book.
"You heard it was said an eye for an eye. But I tell you, turn the other cheek. if a man asks you for your shirt, give him your coat. If he asks you to carry the load 1 mile, make it 2 (paraphrased)".
That is real christianity. Love not hate, forgiveness not judgement.
But flame, flame on, its a roaring bon fire with marshmellows here. Join the dance around the flames of those who disagree with you. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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