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Tiberious aka Sparkles
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Welcome to Dave's, where a question about food nobody particularly cares for can in a flash transform into a heated debate regarding a particular dish of a food nobody particularly cares for.
Sparkles*_* |
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bigverne
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| Britain's no-visa situation with Ireland was just simple economics. Britain's economy was strong, ours was weak. We had surplus workers and they had a shortfall in certain industries. It was as simple as that. |
So, why didn't we extend the same system to other countries with a surplus of workers? Mainly because the Brits don't mind thousands of Irish coming over, due to cultural similarities, whereas they do if they don't speak English and aren't white. |
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bigverne
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| Welcome to Dave's, where a question about food nobody particularly cares for can in a flash transform into a heated debate regarding a particular dish of a food nobody particularly cares for. |
Yes, this is a little ridiculous, especially considering that Irish food is possibly the worst in the world, followed closely by British food. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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I agree about the food quality. Sad but true.
Why do you think there are so many Indian and Pakistani people in Britain? They arrived in the same situation as the Irish but from a different direction. |
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bigverne
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| Why do you think there are so many Indian and Pakistani people in Britain? |
Because they were invited to come. Indians and Pakistanis are subject to visa restrictions, Irish are not. This is because Irish people are not generally viewed as foreign. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Suji's in itaewon does shepherd's pie |
that tastes like crap
check out this place, if you can find it http://www.gavin.co.kr/ |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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You English and Irish can speak for yourselves about your respective foods. Leave us to our haggis (not necessarily battered). We Scots suffer worse CHD mortality for a reason, you know...
(This thread has seen me mostly agreeing with bigverne. Wonders never cease.) |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Because they were invited to come. Indians and Pakistanis are subject to visa restrictions, Irish are not. This is because Irish people are not generally viewed as foreign. |
Only the ignorant section of the British populace suffering from Colonial hangovers would have seen the Irish like that.
The Commonwealth Immigration act for South Asians was created in 1962 in Britain. Before that there were no visa restrictions. Its a relatively new idea.
Anyone interested in it should look up this page. It shows the history of immigration of the largest minorities to the UK.
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/irish/origins/origins.htm |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
Welcome to Dave's, where a question about food nobody particularly cares for can in a flash transform into a heated debate regarding a particular dish of a food nobody particularly cares for.
Sparkles*_* |
haha... |
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mindmetoo
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Before Byron it was referred to as "Stew" in Ireland.
Our passports say Republic of Ireland by the way. We have a British embassy here and we have zero political connection now except for International relations.
Scotland situation and Ireland's are quite different. Scotland is still a part of GB. It has a somewhat devolved goverment but it is not independent yet.
Ireland has been independent for a long time now. We were a recognised as a free state long before Korea. Thats why I was surprised at the comments.
I know Ireland is just a dot on the map to people from bigger countries but it is like saying that New Zealand is a province of Australia or Canada is the 51st state of the US. |
We're talking about NORTHERN Ireland, which is part of GB. They eat Irish stew in Northern Ireland? So, it's British food. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Swiss James wrote: |
| Suji's in itaewon does shepherd's pie |
that tastes like crap
check out this place, if you can find it http://www.gavin.co.kr/ |
I've had the same dish at both places. Sujii's was much better. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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We're talking about NORTHERN Ireland, which is part of GB. They eat Irish stew in Northern Ireland? So, it's British food. |
There are two communities in Northern Ireland. Half of them are from Irish descent. Half are British. The British community are described as Loyalists or Unionists. They would clarify the situation very quickly if you said that Irish stew was one of their dishes. I wouldn't recommend saying it unless you are very quick.
I was in Gangnam a few weeks ago in the Irish bar. One of the waiters was wearing an SAS badge as part of his uniform. Terrible stuff. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
| komtengi wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
| Suji's in itaewon does shepherd's pie |
that tastes like crap
check out this place, if you can find it http://www.gavin.co.kr/ |
I've had the same dish at both places. Sujii's was much better. |
only tried it at sujis and its awful.... |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| One of the waiters was wearing an SAS badge as part of his uniform. Terrible stuff. |
Well, there's a supposedly English pub in Hongdae with the waitresses wearing kilts and berets. So very English. |
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pompomouse
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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Thanks for the help Swiss James. I am not British myself but a new friend of mine (we have both only been in Seoul for 4weeks now) is from England and his birthday is coming up shortly. I want to treat him to a meal from home to hopefully help with his homesickness.
Take care everyone. |
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