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Pangit
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.
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| dbee wrote: |
Firstly - this made me laugh out loud
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Some magazine did a pole awhile back
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I presume this was meant as 'poll' .... although having spent some time in Poland, I've met a few Pole's I wouldn't mind 'doing' myself ... sounds like a fairly hardcore christmas party btw 
... but anyway, back to the discussion ... I really don't understand how anyone gets particularly excited about Macs and the apple corporation in general. They are just as greedy and abusive as microsoft are. If you have apple shares and the apple company is working for you then great - otherwise, I really thing there are more worthy causes to be championing out there than APPLE CORP ( Steve Jobs is just a less smart Bill Gates)
What about Open Source / GNU ? here's an philosophy that is open, trusted and reliable. It's being adopted quickly by developing countries everywhere, I was in india recently and they were having Linux expositions all over the country. I think that providing a real alternative to Windows to developing countries, that get to spend their IT budget on actually training their staff, as opposed to just padding M$ 40billion dollar reserve - is a cause that is worth supporting.
Who cares whether APPLE CORP lives or dies ?? (well not me anyway) Their DRM philosophy sucks ass ... and I buy something off their iTunes site ... it turns out that I don't actually own it at all, it comes with licensing up my ass. 
... I also don't know how the article you refer to manages to equate PC = Windows ... it's hardly the only operating system running on the PC and Linux only gets one mention in passing. BTW PC hardware is NOT inferior to apple hardware.
Most hardcore, programming, network/security computer professionals use *nix whenever possible. As far as I see it, it goes something like this
*bsd for serving
*linux for working
*apple for latte drinking, orange-haired, GUI-designing types (no offence intended AF)
*windows for solitare
(in fairness though - windows only crashes in two ways ... regularly, and often
... funny, but probably not true )
also, why would someone send their windows machine in for "very expensive debugging and reinstalling the OS" ???
Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose of 'debugging' it in the first place ... and who debugs windows ???
... this guy considers himself a 10+year 'power user' and yet knows absolutely nothing about computers. It's the same case when your aquaintance asks you for help with her computer AF.
The "I can't help you, I use a Mac" argument kinda sounds a bit strange to me. Surely learning a little about what makes a computer tick, isn't beyond the capacity of a computer professional of any ilk ???? |
Picking up on dbee's line of thought ...
OP mentioned something about OSX being based on *nix a while back. I'll just stick with *nix if I want *nix stability, rather than go with something "based on" *nix. I can easily dual boot a system with *nix and Windows if I want, and I'd still have a system that could outclass a Mac with both software and hardware. PCs are much more versatile and, with the ability to use *nix, can also be just as, if not more stable. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't read the whole thread (that's a disclaimer) but for the record here's my stance. I used to LOVE macs. My family had an Apple ][e when I was about 6 years old and every subsequent computer was a Mac. They were the best in the world, and Windows sucked. Then Apple promised the greatest thing ever, a new OS, OS X, which would blend the power of Unix with the sex appeal of Macintosh. And I waited, like all Mac addicts, and chatted and speculated with excitement about the astonishing new platform we would get. We waited for I believe about five years, and every promise only made us more excited.
Then Apple released a lousy-ass Linux distribution with all the sex appeal of Unix and the power of Macintosh. It threw away twenty years of transparent, simple, elegant operating system design to replace it with visual dingbats, cartoony interface, and opaque, abstract file system interface. It was, in short, Windows 3.1 all over again. It was ultimate betrayal. On top of that, Apple has eradicated its tradition of quality engineering to become a "cute product" company - selling a cute MP3 player, a cute all-in-one computer, a cute mouse, cute speakers. Fanatics like me kept Apple afloat during the Dark Years but the company shows no sign of awareness or remorse for what they did.
Meanwhile, Windows has listened to its customers and (over generations) improved its software by leaps and bounds. Sony and others have taken up the product design torch and developed innovative and sexy computers and accessories. I'll never trust Steve Jobs again. Clearly all of the great engineers and product designers at Apple are either dead or retired with their stock earnings after the iMac came out. |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| joe_doufu wrote: |
| Clearly all of the great engineers and product designers at Apple are either dead or retired with their stock earnings after the iMac came out. |
I can't believe anyone could use Expose and still write this 
It's one of those features that just makes you think "Why the hell don't all UIs do this?!". |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| hypnotist wrote: |
| joe_doufu wrote: |
| Clearly all of the great engineers and product designers at Apple are either dead or retired with their stock earnings after the iMac came out. |
I can't believe anyone could use Expose and still write this
It's one of those features that just makes you think "Why the hell don't all UIs do this?!". |
Once bitten, twice shy. Apple doesn't give a crap about producing a quality product. That's a fact. |
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