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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: suicide |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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No, please don't do it! God, he's just a bartender!
Okay, maybe he's a really, really good bartender.
Hmm... Judgment call here. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: |
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whilst you're having these huge emotional crises is there are a part of your brain going
"Right, I'd better get on Dave's ESL and see what everyone thinks"
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Erm, it sounds like you need help of a variety that can't be found on an internet forum, i.e if you go about using the word suicide, regardless of whether you're serious or not, then you need PROFESSIONAL help.
(Now can we get back to more light-hearted questions like "Where's the vegemite?) |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:35 am Post subject: Re: suicide |
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princess wrote: |
Would you ever commit suicide over a lover leaving you or have you ever had a lover talk of suicide if you left them? |
No and yes. |
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Demonicat

Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Princess, in his defense- he's known them for alot longer, and sadly the bond is deeper. The fact that his parents are both ill heighteens that bond greatly. I wouldn't hurt yourself or curse him, but rather take a while to reflect and think. Do nothing harmful to anyone as this is a tragic event, but further tradgedy will have no benefit. |
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Here there and everywhere!
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: |
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So you would make you friends and family suffer through your death because one guy doesnt love you as much as you would like?
Yes things can be hard, especially with matters of the heart, but suicide is a very selfish act and NO guy is worth it.
Instead of trying to push him all the time why dont you just let things happen? If they dont happen then you cant force it. It simply wont work.
On the other hand, you cant keep asking us all for advice if youre never going to take it. You are always complaining about your bf.... if hes such a knob then move on and find someone else.
If you think its great being in love, wait til you find someone who loves you back just as much. |
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Flossie

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Up to my nose in the sweet summer smells of sewerage in Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Princess, you seem to talk about your personal problems on here quite a lot, so I'm using that as a basis for this comment. You are dating a Korean, in Korea. Try to have a little think about their culture before you go plastering your own requirements and needs all over your relationship.
I think you need to learn to understand Korean culture a little more. By understand, I don't mean just with your mind, I mean with your heart. If you were both in Canada, America, Swaziland or wherever, it would be a little different. But you're not. You're in his country, not yours. Learn to compromise. He is unlikely to change for you (and nor should he have to if you love him totally, like you claim to) Accept differences and work around them. Don't make them into big obstacles.
I'm sorry if this seems a little harsh, but I think you need to remove your blinkers. You seem to have an idealized version of your relationship stuck in your head and therefore have difficulty dealing with anything that happens in reality that doesn't fit your ideal. Life doesnt work that way. Things are not ideal. Learn to live with it. Things are never perfect, but they can be great. My advice: Aim for great, not perfection |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: |
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If you're seriously considering suicide, you need to get off this board and find a counselor, a member of the clergy, or a friend and talk to them.
If you are screwing with your boyfriend to try to change his mind, you're pathetic and need to grow up. I hate the game playing I see in Korean (or any) relationships - it's like junior high. Don't add to the problem. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:35 am Post subject: |
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princess wrote: |
See, it's like this. I really love this guy more than I've ever loved anyone else. He's like my first love. Friday night I went to his bar and he was telling a Korean girl our love story. At closing time he drove me home and we stopped for breakfast along the way. He dropped me off at home and drove to his home. 3 days later and I see he took me off his cyworld page as his ilchon. I called him and cried askinghim why and he said it was because of his sister and family and that we should just be friends. I cried on the phone with him for one hour. I said OK tonight I will kill myself and your family can be happy. He said no no no many times and he said if I am dead then he will be dead. He said don't ever talk like that. he said he will try to change his family's mind. He's an only son and his family hates foreigners. HIs Dad has cancer and his Mom is sick too. he lives with them and his divorced 40 year old sister. The next day he let me be his cyworld ilchon again, but my message on his cypage is gone. How can someone choose parents over their love? |
An extremely poor reason to self-inflict damage on yourself.. you gotta have a lot more pride and interest in yourself. Sounds like you've wrapped way too much of your own identity into another person - which is never a good idea. |
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suhri1304
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: |
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okay, let me get this straight. your boyfriend doesn't want to see you anymore b/c his father's last dying wish (since he does have cancer) is to not marry you??? is that right? ummmm, if i were you, i would respect his father's wishes b/c he IS your BF's father and you should give him ALITTLE respect. if i were in your boyfriend's position, i would do same thing... i don't know why in HELL you would think about commiting suicide. maybe you've been watching way too many korean dramas... |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:45 am Post subject: Re: suicide |
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princess wrote: |
Would you ever commit suicide over a lover leaving you or have you ever had a lover talk of suicide if you left them? |
*beep* no. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Only cowards commit suicide. |
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roybetis1

Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Location: Not near a beach like my recruiter promised.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Princess, my heart goes out to you. If you're looking for serious mature advice Daves ESL is NOT the place for it. Please contact family, friend, clergy as soon as possible. You're in my prayers. |
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