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Drinking and Teaching: Do they mix?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Drinking and Teaching: Do they mix? Reply with quote

The first time I visited my new high school job place last month, all the male teachers took me out for lunch. We had a bowl of dong-dong ju with the bi-bim-bap stuff. Then they went back to work, teaching kids all afternoon.

Yesterday, the lead English teacher took the other K English teacher and me out for lunch. He offered beer with our don-kass. I turned it down because I had two afternoon classes.

I think I'm a prude. If they don't care, why should I? In addition, there were 2 big bottles of beer and 3 bottles of soju in the refrigerator in the teachers' lounge earlier this week.

Korea has a much more relaxed attitude toward drinking and teaching than I am used to. I'm thinking I will add a shot or two of soju to my morning tea.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday I staggered into my morning kinder-class to the usual banging and screaming.
A sweet little girl of 5 or 6 asked me, "Teacher, are you okay?"
I said, "My head... ache... appo."
The girl announced to the class, "Be Quiet! Teacher soju mani moga... modi appo."
I gave her a sticker.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babtangee wrote:
Yesterday I staggered into my morning kinder-class to the usual banging and screaming.
A sweet little girl of 5 or 6 asked me, "Teacher, are you okay?"
I said, "My head... ache... appo."
The girl announced to the class, "Be Quiet! Teacher soju mani moga... modi appo."
I gave her a sticker.


Cute. Like the kids know the drill.

When my school goes out for soju and samgyapsal I always stick to a beer and then try to beg off going home by midnight, explaining "I'm a sober responsible teacher. I go to bed early and wake up early."
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well..I think you are making the right choice there ya-ta.

Stumbling in to your kindie class hung over babtangee...now thats sad...really it is. Confused
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the British people are probably laughing at this silly North American thread. One thing I remember distinctly from my last visit to the UK was that every pub was packed full like it was Saturday night... every weekday at about noon. Working the afternoon drunk is not just a Korean tradition.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Stumbling in to your kindie class hung over babtangee...now thats sad...really it is. Confused


He didn't actually say he had a hangover... though I can see how the use of the term "stumbling" one might assume he had a hangover. However, he may have had the flu or something??? Wink

Babtangee - did you have a hangover? Cute story, by the way Very Happy
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
All the British people are probably laughing at this silly North American thread. One thing I remember distinctly from my last visit to the UK was that every pub was packed full like it was Saturday night... every weekday at about noon. Working the afternoon drunk is not just a Korean tradition.

I was about to post the very same thing, but then I stopped because I don't believe it's the case for teachers of small children.


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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waterbaby wrote:
Homer wrote:
Stumbling in to your kindie class hung over babtangee...now thats sad...really it is. Confused


He didn't actually say he had a hangover... though I can see how the use of the term "stumbling" one might assume he had a hangover. However, he may have had the flu or something??? Wink

Babtangee - did you have a hangover? Cute story, by the way Very Happy

Cute story or sad story? Until we have the full story (actually hungover or not) there can be no verdict.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
All the British people are probably laughing at this silly North American thread. One thing I remember distinctly from my last visit to the UK was that every pub was packed full like it was Saturday night... every weekday at about noon. Working the afternoon drunk is not just a Korean tradition.


Actually, most Canadians of my generation, and of older ones, think nothing of going to the pub during lunch break for a beer served with a meal. The younger generation has been brainwashed by a daily dose of fastwood TV commercials while growing up.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the Guru hasn't had a single meal (��) since 1995.

It's all been ����, baby.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must confess I've turned up to work drunk a couple of times - once from my "soju for breakfast" philosophy (hair of the dog because I felt dreadful) and in the afternoon. If you don't let it affect your teaching in an adverse way, I don't see the problem. If anything, I had fewer inhibitions and had a great class.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My director had alcohol with lunch in my first week here. I didn't touch it, saying in my country teachers don't drink before classes, but I encouraged him to go ahead, I don't mind if Koreans do what Koreans do, as long as I can opt out if I want. My director never has had alcohol with lunch again since then when we've eaten lunch together. But that doesn't stop him and I from doing late night drinking jaunts.

Everyone has to decide for themself where one draws the line, what one will do because locals do it, and what one will not do to stay in line with one's values and comfort level.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a vast difference between having a beevie and getting drunk. Therefore you can have a beevie or two and then go to class no problem.

Drinking to the point of drunk and teaching... hmm probably not a good idea.
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drink my share, but I can't possibly conceptualize teaching children with alcohol in my system.

What planet are all of you on?

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
The first time I visited my new high school job place last month, all the male teachers took me out for lunch. We had a bowl of dong-dong ju with the bi-bim-bap stuff. Then they went back to work, teaching kids all afternoon.

Yesterday, the lead English teacher took the other K English teacher and me out for lunch. He offered beer with our don-kass.

Just because Koreans do something doesn't make it right. Maybe this mentality is part of the reason their education system is in the toilet.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last term we did a grade 5 trip to Lotte World and the grade 5 teachers were treated to an huge lunch. The drink they included was dong dong ju...but it was non-alcoholic.

Also, last term we had the School field day. The lunch for the teachers was a full spread buffet (easily the best lunch I've ever had in Korea) and there was beer and juice offered. Many lf the teachers were having beer so I decided to have a couple of glasses also. We didn't have to teach tho, just watch the kids do their activities. After the lunch I saw the vice-principal and he asked me, "did you have the beer?" and I replied that I had drank a beer. He then said in a really loud voice, "I drinked 9 Beer!!!" He then went outside and did a speech to 1600 children and all their parents and grandparents.
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