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		| captain kirk 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Fingerprint attendance device and 'phone teaching'. |   |  
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				| Jeez, man, they rolled in this high tech attendance device. It takes your fingerprint and, therefore, attendance. Korean teachers said they'd seen them in companies but never in a hagwon. 
 It looks like a little ATM but without the money slot. I guess the kids can get their fingerprint read and so attendance is reliably computerized. And parents can be lock down sure where there kids are. No humans taking role call, which is humanly fallible. Cool, eh?
 
 Another new development to increase the effeciency of our haggie is the attempted request we do supplementary phone teaching.
 
 You know, call up the kid at night and ask them a few questions and check, on to the next kid. We foreign teachers got together and refused, not just because there's no OT pay for this but basically because it's a pain in the butt.
 
 The bigboss wants to provide fringe perks such as the compu-attendance device and phone teaching. Is phone teaching as extra work something you experience?
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		| some waygug-in 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| When I did phone teaching it was considered a class. 
 2 nights a week I had one less inhouse class, but I had to do phone teaching for an hour instead.
 
 When I first started, they expected me to sit there all night calling and recalling students who weren't home the first time round.   I refused to do any more than an hour as it was instead of a regular class.
 
 What a colosal WOFT!
 
 Half the time, the kids weren't home, sometimes the grandparents would answer the phone and start screaming at me in Korean?
 Sometimes the kids would put their younger brother or sister on the line, because they were watching TV.  Sometimes they would just make rude noises and babble at me...refusing to answer any questions.
   Sometimes they would talk to me (about 20% of the time) and then I would try to ask them something they could understand and answer.
 
 What's your name?
 
 What food do you like?
 
 What animal do you like best?
 
 What kind of ice-cream do you like best?
 
 etc.
 
 The school had these ridiculous scripts that I was supposed to use, but they were utter crap.
 
 I was happy to not have to do it anymore.
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		| amyjane 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's weird we have just put a post on asking whether we should agree to do phone teaching. We then noticed your post and our thoughts on phone teaching rang true. Seems like its the latest fashion that all parents want but seems a waste of time to me. We have refused and are now waiting to see the concequences as we have a feeling the Director has already told the parents we will be doing it as from next month. In our case most of the kids wont be home until about 9pm. The directors answer was he would keep the school open longer or that we could do it from home! We simply said that we wanted a life outside teaching and we would not let our evenings be taken over with tedious phone calls that only serve to promote the school and has no benefit to the child. |  | 
	
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		| Gopher 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | some waygug-in wrote: |  
	  | What a colosal WOFT! 
 Half the time, the kids weren't home, sometimes the grandparents would answer the phone and start screaming at me in Korean?
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 Yes.  Absolutely.  Same experience here.
 
 
 
 
	  | some waygug-in wrote: |  
	  | What's your name? 
 What food do you like?
 
 What animal do you like best?
 
 What kind of ice-cream do you like best?
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 You have kids who can answer these questions?  What a luxury.
 
 My director just started yet another new "preschool class" (she calls it "Preschool Class!") with three kids who speak zero English, do no know any of the alphabet, and I'm working with an intermediate-level textbook filled with...chants.  It seems their mothers were promised the moon, the sun, and all the gold in El Dorado when they signed up for classes.
 
 So we chant things that they do not understand, two hours per week.  I suppose next week they'll be thrown onto the "telephone teaching" schedule and that means I'll be chanting with them over the phone.
 
 Other dog-and-pony nonsense besides "telephone teaching" includes a new "star bonus" system (director calls it "Star Bonus!" as she is the greatest game-show host/used car salesman I've ever met) and "listening homework" (which she, or course, refers to as "Listening Homework!").
 
 I'm not leaving a moment too soon...
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		| some waygug-in 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| [quote="Gopher"] 
 
	  | some waygug-in wrote: |  
	  | What a colosal WOFT! 
 Half the time, the kids weren't home, sometimes the grandparents would answer the phone and start screaming at me in Korean?
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 Yes.  Absolutely.  Same experience here.
 
 
 
 
	  | some waygug-in wrote: |  
	  | What's your name? 
 What food do you like?
 
 What animal do you like best?
 
 What kind of ice-cream do you like best?
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 You have kids who can answer these questions?  What a luxury.
 
 
 These were the ones that were level 3 or better, usually had been there a while.   But a lot of them couldn't.
 
 Some of them refused to do it altogether, but I still had to keep calling them.
   
 I sure hope I don't have to teach kids that young again.  I am just not cut out for that kind of teaching.
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		| Hanson 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Laugh out loud funny! 
 
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	  | My director just started yet another new "preschool class" (she calls it "Preschool Class!") with three kids who speak zero English, do no know any of the alphabet, and I'm working with an intermediate-level textbook filled with...chants. It seems their mothers were promised the moon, the sun, and all the gold in El Dorado when they signed up for classes. 
 So we chant things that they do not understand, two hours per week. I suppose next week they'll be thrown onto the "telephone teaching" schedule and that means I'll be chanting with them over the phone.
 
 Other dog-and-pony nonsense besides "telephone teaching" includes a new "star bonus" system (director calls it "Star Bonus!" as she is the greatest game-show host/used car salesman I've ever met) and "listening homework" (which she, or course, refers to as "Listening Homework!").
 
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