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Drinking and Teaching: Do they mix?
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you, the guru of spin? You going into politics when you've finished your hagwon career?

Here's the sum total of the 2 (count 'em, two) comments I wrote in response to Homer:

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Somewhat sad to be hungover once in a while? What's sad is you, old boy; and I can see no possible need for any further explanation.


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What stimulus deprived chimpanzee would take the time to think out a reply to anything you write anyway?


Now you, spin guru, claim I wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:


[Babtangee posted:]
"Why would I bother thinking up a reply to you?"

(several posts later)
"Who even listens to you?"

(several posts later)
"Only a chimp would bother responding to you."

(several posts later)
....


I'd like to know how two posts can be construed as "several posts" + "several posts" + another "several posts"? Is counting difficult or something - I don't get it?

Also where did I ask "who even listens to [Homer]?" Can you quote me instead of paraphrasing as inaccurately as a Korean uni student.

Finally, I could have sworn I said only a chimp would provide Homer with a thought-out reply. You know there's a difference between a considered, measured response and one you just shit out (which is what Homer accurately accused me of doing)? You do know this, don't you? Or have you just been shitting out every thought in your head since you could talk and that's why you come of like such a tool...?

At least figure out the counting thing, ya mallet. It's not that hard.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:
Bought the kiddies french fries from the McDonald's across the street, and halfway through my bag of fries, they came right back up again.

I'm sure it wasn't you, but last year I was taking the subway in the morning and I was sitting across the aisle from a Western girl. There were no empty seats, but it wasn't jam-packed. Anyway, this girl was looked pretty green, and you could see her wincing and trying to maintain every time the carriage lurched forward or came to a wicked stop.

At one point, she took opened her handbag, emptied its contents into a larger bag, and then proceeded to empty the contents of her stomach into the little handbag.

Everyone around her gasped and the Koreans sitting beside her very rapidly vacated their seats! Laughing After she finished surrendering her soul to her handbag, she closed it, stood up, walked over to the doors, and got off at the very next station. (I'm guessing that was an unscheduled stopover.)

The funny thing is, nobody who saw what happened wanted to sit where the foreign girl upchucked, even though she had good aim and left no traces on the seat or the floor. It was only the blissfully ignorant passengers who got on afterwards who grabbed the empty seats, while the rest of us exchanged knowing grins and snickers amongst ourselves.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bab..its all good...no worries.

No one cares.

This all got started when you got your pantyhose in a twist after I said that coming to work hungover was not the end of the world but that it was sad. You responded to this with an insult so I started the keep on drinking comment in kind return....

Now, stop trying to act as if all you did was try to stop the exchange of bad words when really, you sort of started the whole little thing by insulting me. Scroll back and see.

At any rate, this exchange of ours is a waste of web space...
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know I am starting to have a change of heart. I used to pride myself on professionalism, but now I pride myself for not drooling on my table when I am catching a few extra winks in class.

My job does not provide anything really interesting, nor do I give a rip about it anymore. Its a pointless trained monkey job that leaves me more depressed every week that goes by.

To combat this sense of chronic maliase I have cut all my classes classwork in half. We now focus on screwing around games and conversational work as much as possible.

I still can not bring myself to want to show up loaded, or drink at work, but anymore I really can't fault others who do it. Truly this wasteland of nothingness I live in drives me insane on a regular basis to the point last week I thought it would be amusing to pitch a 10 year old brat in front of a bus just to watch the show.

I did manage to control my impulse, but now I understand why I see so many wasted foreigners on the subway, and on work nights. For the most part their ain't jack all else to do for alot of us.

In short... drink up, and try not to vomit in your classroom garbage can getting rid of the smell is a real pain.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:

To combat this sense of chronic maliase I have cut all my classes classwork in half. We now focus on screwing around games...


This is all I do when I'm working in the hagwon now. I used to spend hours trying to structure real, immersive lessons, but after about 3 months of nagging my boss for a laminator and butchers paper I realised he didn't give a hoot, so why should I.

Now all my preparation consists of trying to find or develop new games that will engage the kids. I generally base these games around whatever grammer point the kids are learning at the time, but if I can't... well so what, they love playing Blackjack just as much as anything else (all my kids have, "Yes, give me another card", and, "No, don't give me another card", down pat.

The Korean teachers can bore them to tears with endless grammar explanations and vocabulary lists.

I did get the laminator though - five months later.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really funny post, Dan. Laughing
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I brought this topic up, I think I'm entitled to alter it just a bit.

Please go in your teachers' lounge and check the refrigerator. I'm very curious to know how many contain alcohol (and what kind).

Ours has two bottles of soju and one large bottle of beer. I'm pretty sure there is a bottle of makolli there too, but the writing is too fancy for me to read.

For the progressive ones in the crowd, I'm interested in your take on this: since drinking is OK, would it be acceptable for me to sneak a couple of shots of the soju in the fridge? IOW, does petty (very petty) larceny mix with teaching?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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would it be acceptable for me to sneak a couple of shots of the soju in the fridge? IOW, does petty (very petty) larceny mix with teaching?


Will chime in anyway:

No and No.
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inkoreafornow



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Gyeonggido

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

Please go in your teachers' lounge and check the refrigerator. I'm very curious to know how many contain alcohol (and what kind).


There are 40 Korean teachers at my school and I'm the only non-Korean. Hence, the fridge in the Vice Principal's office contains around 40 bottles of Soju and four or five 1.5 liter bottles of beer - God only knows how much alcohol is in the the teachers' lounge fridges (1st - 6th grade).
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Since I brought this topic up, I think I'm entitled to alter it just a bit.

Please go in your teachers' lounge and check the refrigerator. I'm very curious to know how many contain alcohol (and what kind).

Ours has two bottles of soju and one large bottle of beer. I'm pretty sure there is a bottle of makolli there too, but the writing is too fancy for me to read.

For the progressive ones in the crowd, I'm interested in your take on this: since drinking is OK, would it be acceptable for me to sneak a couple of shots of the soju in the fridge? IOW, does petty (very petty) larceny mix with teaching?


Only one bottle of soju. Last time I checked there were three.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't checked their fridge - I have my own - but there are stacks of beers on the shelves in my elementary school's teachers' lounge. My wife said they would most probably be "gifts" from parents.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I really like about staff room drinking is that almost all the K-teachers much prefer soju and I can have all the makju to myself. Constantly refilling those little paper cups can be a nusaince, though.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very sorry to say there isn't a drop of booze in our fridge. It's only a relatively small staffroom in a 1000 student+ middle school, but even so.

Shame - I really fancied getting a stiff one down my throat before my last class at 3pm!
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jg



Joined: 27 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a drink with lunch is common... throwing terms like "most" around is a bit dubious though, as is "my coworkers all do it, why can't I?". More than one or two, that constitutes heading towards tipsy, depending on the persons weight, fitness etc. I wonder how many of those bragging about their drunkenness would try that with a job back home. Or better yet, have had a professional job back home and done it. I will guess very few, giving some credence to the "anything goes" reputation of ESL.

On the other hand, no need to be so prudeish and freak at those who have a glass of wine with their lunch occasionally. I agree with the Guru, if you taught my little Johnny smelling like Aldophus Coors that would be... not quite professional. I mean, really! Don't try to paint Americans as all prudes, do teachers in Britain or OZ show up tanked or hungover often and then act all brazen about it to boot?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No alcohol at my school either. Then again it's mostly female teachers so...
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