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A second civil war?
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Do you think there will ever be another civil war in The USA
Yes, it's possible.
41%
 41%  [ 7 ]
No, never.
47%
 47%  [ 8 ]
Not sure.
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 17

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deessell



Joined: 08 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject: A second civil war? Reply with quote

....and if you voted, would you be prepared to fight in a civil war?

My reasons for this poll are related to supposed "time traveler" John Titor. John came back in time from 2036 into the year 2000. He said (2000) that in 2004/2005 there was a civil war in USA that lasted for 7 years.

I am interested what other posters think about this with particular reference to the current political climate in the USA.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



I used to be something of what many like to call a "liberal" when it came to gun-grabs, gov't registration and the like. By this i mean someone who may have thought along similar lines as to say Hillary Clinton Shocked

Not any more.

Some estimates place close to 1,000,000 foreign ( i.e. UN ) troops covertly stationed in America. According to eye witnesses and high-level military this includes German, Russian, Lithuanian & ... uhhh ... Chinese.

Significant presence in Canda as well.

Big question is where are all the domestic soldiers ? Answer: ( Among other places ) Afghanistan & Iraq.

http://www.google.com/search?q=foreign+un+troops+american+soil&hl=en&lr=


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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:


This image comes right out of the anti-Clinton conspiracy people (they referred to him as "Billary" and they also spoke of "the People's Republic of California"), the right-wing survivalist gun freaks a la Timothy McVeigh who feared "the Brady Bill" and U.S. participation in the UN as a sign of some kind of ominous occupation of the United States that was yet to come...

As to the possibility (not probability) of a civil war in the U.S.: never say never. Very unlikely at the moment, however.

I am aware of senior officials in the military who are concerned that forcing the military to get involved in the antidrug war and immigration patrols, etc., will politicize the armed forces and open the way for a military coup...I've read articles on this in military journals, written by officers who preferred to say out of these things for these reasons. In any case, if I wanted to see where a breakdown of the constitution might come from, I'd keep my eye on that ball.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: A second civil war? Reply with quote

Quote:
"deessell
My reasons for this poll are related to supposed "time traveler" John Titor. John came back in time from 2036 into the year 2000. He said (2000) that in 2004/2005 there was a civil war in USA that lasted for 7 years.

I am interested what other posters think about this with particular reference to the current political climate in the USA.



John Titor was revealed to be a fraud a long time ago bro. Don't be naive!
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
This image comes right out of the anti-Clinton conspiracy people (they referred to him as "Billary" and they also spoke of "the People's Republic of California"), the right-wing survivalist gun freaks a la Timothy McVeigh who feared "the Brady Bill" and U.S. participation in the UN as a sign of some kind of ominous occupation of the United States that was yet to come ...

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."-- Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting.

Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.

Conspiracy ? What conspiracy ? Rolling Eyes
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deessell



Joined: 08 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: A second civil war? Reply with quote

SuperFly wrote:
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"deessell
My reasons for this poll are related to supposed "time traveler" John Titor. John came back in time from 2036 into the year 2000. He said (2000) that in 2004/2005 there was a civil war in USA that lasted for 7 years.

I am interested what other posters think about this with particular reference to the current political climate in the USA.



John Titor was revealed to be a fraud a long time ago bro. Don't be naive!


Aside from Titor being a fraud, I am more interested in civil war and whether anyone thinks that the citizens of USA (or any western country) would be able to instigate a civil war, with changes to gun laws, loss of liberty and freedoms, it would be a harder prospect.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: A second civil war? Reply with quote

deessell wrote:
I am more interested in civil war and whether anyone thinks that the citizens of USA (or any western country) would be able to instigate a civil war, with changes to gun laws, loss of liberty and freedoms, it would be a harder prospect.


The gun ownership advocates don't really get the point that handguns, shotguns, and even assault rifles won't do too much against a govt armed with tanks, rockets, jets, tactical nukes, and also armed with comprehensive information databases and infrared and other satellite technology and intelligence means available to its forces.

In any case, if there were going to be a civil war in the U.S. it certainly would have occured between 1967-1975, at the height of the Civil Rights/Vietnam/Watergate issues that tore the place asunder, so to speak.

As tense as things are today, we're not anywhere near where they were at that time.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: A second civil war? Reply with quote

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