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Play_Doh



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Online

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: K girl who must stay in ROK Reply with quote

OK not a new thread but..

My fantastic but no dout your just better than average typical K girl...like not the hottest thing you see on the street but nevertheless known to be called beautiful..ok get the picture...has ended our 5 year stint which has covered being together in a number of countries (so she can compare) ...because of what she says "I can never live outside korea bla bla -we all know the story" senario.

What Do those whom have been in similar situations recommend? After all it's really not all that bad in ROK?
Is it the place of the guy to do the major sacrifice, sell up to live forever in a grotty apartment( god forbid an apart over looking the river dowtown!) and panda to korean society and life?

After some time and say kids..will they turn their ideas around once they see all their friends and family going down that same old path and long for a life in a foreign land. Is it worth the possiblity.

And for one more dose of kimchi, kalbitung and sweet dock I might just do it
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that going someplace and staying in one place for a person is not the wisest choice in the world.
Just go to "Korean Sob Story", you can see what the repercussions could be for going to a place for someone.
I think you have to weigh the good with the bad in thinking about permanently relocating. Also, think about job prospects for the person and the person's spouse; In Korea, there is really nothing much a person can do except teach (But I will admit, there are a few BIG exceptions) and in the US or Canada, there might not be much in the way of job prospects unless he/ she has some real skills or experience.
Granted, there are alot of women who would be more than happy to leave Korea, but I think alot of those types are in it for personal gain.

Korea is not that bad, but you must weigh what you want over how you feel.
Besides, what you lose now, you might find better later...
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skinhead



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care less about whether it is the 'guy thing' to do. If she won't go, it's your decision to stay with her or not. A lot of people make a life of it with their K-partners in Korea. Some happily, some under duress. But I hear ya ~ 5 yrs is almost everything eh. It seems like the ROK or a hard place.

If you've been around a bit together, and she says she hasn't seen anything better than Korea, then it could be that her family is more important than her own partnership. It seems a bit old fashioned to us, but it is still very strong in many Korean parent-daughter relationships. I wouldn't count on that changing if children adn routine come along. Might just reinforce it really. What I would be asking myself in your situation is do I really know her well enough to take the chance or not? We've been back in Australia for four years nearly, and in a couple more we'll be back, probly for the duration. I have to resign myself to it to some extent out of love and because she did it for me, but a big part of me is aching to be back with my Han family again anyway (mainly my stomach really).

Has she made this an ultimatum? Is she saying 'my way or the highway'?Do you both have choices? If not, I'd be wary of committing.


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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the real problem is you were together five years and didn't get married. She got tired of waiting.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is she approaching her 30's? If so her family may be putting pressure on her to get married and start a family. Maybe with a nice Korean boy.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn to write if you want anyone to read your posts.

No dout.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Learn to write if you want anyone to read your posts.


I pretty much gave up reading what he had to say after the second sentence. Too painful to parse his scatter shot grammar. Why can't English teachers actually write 5 lines of clear prose?
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death from above



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: in your head

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'panda to korean society' ???????????



tell me you haven't been teaching children for 5 years.

yeesh.
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Play_Doh



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Online

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PSS *beep* you mate..I will waste your try hard junky arse if I ever see you anywhere..no doubt

and mindmetoo..dont you ever post that god damn monkey face ugly bitch on my post again OMG you are desperate..give up son

THanks to all you others...dont fall into that trap where you think you rule korea like those other dreamers

bye
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you a fighter or a lover?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Are you a fighter or a lover?


Well..he is not a writer that is for sure. It is scary to think he has been teaching English for 5 years.... Laughing Laughing
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mysteriousdeltarays



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Food Pyramid Bldg. 5F, 77 Sunset Strip, Alphaville

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play-do You seem rather upset. I understand. I don't think these other people even try.

Everybody hates me for being old here but I do know what I'm talking about.

K- Girl you are probably a very beautiful girl, you are obviously very intellegent. Look there are hours and years and sorts of things ahead of you.

I'm an old guy, I've done all sorts of things, I had a good time. I saw a lot of places. Even at my age girls like me because I like to dance.

I'm planning on shooting myself in the head. I don't think you should do that.

If you are in Seoul, girls always like to dance, Macambo is a cool place,
don't know how to dance? I'm not trying to pick you up.

Don't be afraid, it'll be fun, Macambo it's in the Hongik area, I don't go there too often but I think you'd like it.

I'm so old by these jerks standards even YBM won't hire me. Be cool, be young, have some fun.
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steelhead



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul formerly known as Victoria

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its pretty sad, that a guy who obviously has other things on his mind than his grammar, gets roasted, because he quickly jots down whatever he was thinking. He came here for advice and all those who have absolutely nothing better to do but come here to heckle people with sincere questions, concerns, or problems which they seek guidance.

Who knows, maybe he does what I do, and types while watching TV or something.

I am not really all that concerned if my grammar isn't up to par with all the guru's. I am not writing a thesis paper, or writing a cover letter. I am speaking my mind.

Brother, I know where you are at. Recently I have been contemplating concluding my stint in the ROC. A combination of things really. Lack of job satisfaction, seen and done what I needed to see and do, and met my financial goals.

I've had a gf for coming up on 2 years now, even brought her back to my hometown last year, however, when I bring up the notion of her coming back with me, it gets somewhat awkward. Basically, I think she would be nearly disowned by her family if she left for reasons other than study, or marriage. In my case, her family doesn't even really know about me.

Her family is very traditional, and old fashioned. So I think she is hesitant bringing it up,not knowing what kind of commotion it may cause.

Me personally, I couldnt make this my home forever. I've kicked around the idea, but I just dont think I could do it. I desire some of the things, I can only acquire, or strive for back home. Primarily, a home, and a career in which I envisioned.

It basically comes down to happiness. If you think you could be happy here, go for it. But I would try to avoid rationalizing while considering this place "isn't that bad". Don't sell yourself short.

Its a big decision, and not one I envy.

Feel free to hack on my grammar. I dont English good anyways!

Cheers
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Trinny



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heya,

I don't know...I am a Korean married to a Canadian guy (he wasn't a teacher) and have lived in Canada for the last 5 years.

The longer I stayed here, the less likely the chances are for me to go back to Korea. It is nice to visit Korea to see my relatives and a few friends, which is pretty miuch the extent of my connection to Korea. I got my education in North America, some work experience, friends, life, etc. What more can one wish? Honestly, other than language barrier, I don't find living in North America is bad at all.

When I was in Korea, I couldn't even dream of moving out of Korea.

You only use "must", when you refer to your wife, "she who must be obeyed." Nobody must stay in one country or another.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steelhead wrote:
Its pretty sad, that a guy who obviously has other things on his mind than his grammar, gets roasted, because he quickly jots down whatever he was thinking. He came here for advice and all those who have absolutely nothing better to do but come here to heckle people with sincere questions, concerns, or problems which they seek guidance.


We're teachers. If some cracker has been here for half a decade and can't demonstrate anything more than a middling ability with the language he's supposed to be teaching, it affects our industry. One bad teacher reflects poorly on us all. If this was a message board for doctors and some guy claiming to be an MD was asking for relationship help but glaringly demonstrated he was an insult to the profession, wouldn't it behoove the other doctors to suggest the guy was an embarrassment to their profession?
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