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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: Stand By Your Man: How is Bush Good? |
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I often read threads here where people support Bush (GW) and talk about how he is a good president, a great wartime leader, compassionate, etc. To that I must say, WTF?
I know there are a lot of people on this board who agree that Bush is the worst president ever, but I wonder what's going on in the minds of Bush supporters. How can you like this guy?
Just off the top of my head:
-Turned the largest surplus in US history to the largest deficit.
-Presided over some of the largest economic scandals in history, ie: WorldCom, Tyco, and especially Enron (yet didn't try to go after his buddy Ken Lay.) and then passed half-assed laws to 'try' to 'correct' the problem.
-Passed Orwellian sounding laws such as the "Clear Skies Act", which makes it easier to pollute, the "Healthy Forests Inniative", which makes it easier to log and not renew the forest, and the "No Child Left Behind Act", which has left many children behind.
-Ignored Pre-911 Terrorist chatter, including August 2001 PDB entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to attack inside America".
-Sat around for 7 minutes after learning of the second attack on the WTC on 911 before running away and spending most of the day in hiding.
-Fought tooth and nail against the 911 commission, and when finally relenting, refusing to go under oath and having Cheney present with him at all times.
-Knowingly lied about Iraqi WMDs in order to invade Iraq. (Thereby iInfuriating most of the world and losing many previously steadfast allies.) Not to mention that these lies have lead to the deaths of almost 2000 US soldiers and Tens of Thousands of Iraqis.
-Outed a covert CIA operative (Valerie Plame-Joe Wilson's wife) in order to tarnish a dissenting voice against the war (who verified that Iraq did not get yellowcake uranium from Niger)
-Devised legal rationales for torture, thereby circumventing the 'quaint' Geneva Convention.
-Run an administration which has allowed Republican cronies to reap huge profits from no-bid Iraqi reconstruction contracts. (9 billion missing?!?!) Meanwhile, creating a dog and pony show to try and blame the UN in the so called 'Oil-for-food Scandal'.
-Pandering to his Christian base by declaring a de-facto war on science (evolution, stem-cell research, global climate change, etc.) and trying to mesh church and state.
-pretty much running for 're'-election on an anti-gay platform as well as slinging mud at an actual war hero whilst covering up his own 'service'.
-Sitting on his arse for 3 days after Katrina, and then 'helping' out by merely showing up for photo-ops.
-Publicly sodomizing a cute puppy on the lawn of the White House while drinking baby seal blood and giving the Satan salute (and not the wimpy thumb out one, this one was pure heavy metal, baby.)
OK, maybe that last one is a little biased, but what I put here is just the tip of the iceberg.
Are you up for a challange?
If you are man (or woman) enough, prove to me that GW Bush is good. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Sign of Satan?
Oh no ... ummm ... that's not what you think it is. He's actually a good church going Christian man. As this picture clearly DEMON-strates, he also just happens to be a big Texas "Long Horns" fan  |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: |
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More Texas "Long Horns" Fans?
 
 
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deessell
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| nice work!! |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
Sign of Satan?
Oh no ... ummm ... that's not what you think it is. He's actually a good church going Christian man. As this picture clearly DEMON-strates, he also just happens to be a big Texas "Long Horns" fan |
Don't let his churchgoing behavior fool you. Satan is everywhere. Do you remember when they played the "Mr. Ed" theme backwards and heard "this song was sung for Satan" in the lyrics?
They've been brainwashing people since the 1950s, at least. What we need to investigate is whether Bush is a brainwasher or a brainwashee. Don't know what that will prove. But I'm pretty sure it will prove something. |
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sportsguy35
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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here we go....
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sportsguy35
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| well, of course, nothing I say will satisfy your hunger for hatred against this guy. Although I am a longhorn fan, born and raised, and that is our sign. So thus making another reason you should be sad...... you're not on the side of Bush who stands by what he says ( evidence doesnt always mean the person did it or had it, we had evidence, we were WRONG!) but he is still pressing forward and not cowarding out and pulling out like most of the wishy-washy do what is best for us now people would do. Lets see, how many other presidents have endured a 9/11 and a Katrina, two of our nations worst disasters, EVER! he had two of them. Of course he could have acted better, no one in history had ever had to react to those situations. Did you jump up and start helping immediately after you heard about 9/11??? just be glad you have the seat of finger pointer and name caller with everything in hind-sight. The second reason you should be sad is that you're not a longhorns fan and he is!!!! woooooo hooooo hook 'em horns |
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ladyandthetramp
Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| sportsguy35 wrote: |
| So thus making another reason you should be sad...... you're not on the side of Bush who stands by what he says ( evidence doesnt always mean the person did it or had it, we had evidence, we were WRONG!) |
What evidence, exactly, are you refering to?
And you can't really use the excuse "we were WRONG!" when we knew it was wrong BEFORE the invasion.
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Lets see, how many other presidents have endured a 9/11 and a Katrina, two of our nations worst disasters, EVER! he had two of them. Of course he could have acted better, no one in history had ever had to react to those situations. |
So being the president during a bad disaster automatically makes you a good president? Again, try thinking about your logic before you post.
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Did you jump up and start helping immediately after you heard about 9/11??? just be glad you have the seat of finger pointer and name caller with everything in hind-sight. |
Are any of us the president? The president has duties we do not have. If he didn't want to fulfill them, he shouldn't have run for office.
In the end, you still didn't answer the OP. What good has Bush done? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| He sure helped those Halliburton folks out.........God knows where they'd be now if it 'twernt fer Georgy boy. |
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sportsguy35
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| ladyandthetramp wrote: |
| sportsguy35 wrote: |
| So thus making another reason you should be sad...... you're not on the side of Bush who stands by what he says ( evidence doesnt always mean the person did it or had it, we had evidence, we were WRONG!) |
What evidence, exactly, are you refering to?
And you can't really use the excuse "we were WRONG!" when we knew it was wrong BEFORE the invasion.
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Lets see, how many other presidents have endured a 9/11 and a Katrina, two of our nations worst disasters, EVER! he had two of them. Of course he could have acted better, no one in history had ever had to react to those situations. |
Evidence. The day Powell came before the U.N. he brought evidence. If you over here your neighbor talking about planning some kind attack on you or your family, would you just sit back and say,"hhmmm, we'll see how it plays out..." What good has Bush done??? He led our country through post 9/11 with huge approval ratings because he was couragous. Kinda funny how so many people forgot that so soon. Those things don't make him a good president, his response did. Did you notice how everybody is upset at everybody after Katrina, thats because NOBODY knew what was best to do. Bush haters are rediculous and just looking for another way to kick the guy. In the end, after the Iraq war, they will be a free people and we will have been the 'cause of that. I have brothers over there fighting and they tremendous courage and respect for Bush and what he is doing. Iraq now is a war-zone, yes worse than before, but it will change and they will be free. So for now, while its bad, get as much in on him as you can because later, he will be remembered as the one who freed them. Now, give me your comments about how bad the war is and how it won't ever change...
So being the president during a bad disaster automatically makes you a good president? Again, try thinking about your logic before you post.
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Did you jump up and start helping immediately after you heard about 9/11??? just be glad you have the seat of finger pointer and name caller with everything in hind-sight. |
Are any of us the president? The president has duties we do not have. If he didn't want to fulfill them, he shouldn't have run for office.
In the end, you still didn't answer the OP. What good has Bush done? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/resume.asp
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: The George W. Bush "r?um?" one of the most forwarded items of 2003, is a mixed bag of entries of varying degrees of truthfulness, many of them quite complex and/or subjective in nature. We haven't had the time to properly delve into the multiplicity of claims contained in it yet.
However, because so many of our readers have asked us about this e-mail, we list here a couple of links to other sources which attempt to document (or refute) the items listed in the "rum?" (Please note we have in no way vetted the analysis or conclusions offered therein; we offer these links solely on a "let the reader beware" basis.)
http://www.crossbearer.com/opinion/resume.html
http://idontfeelsogood.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_idontfeelsogood_archive.html
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Turned the largest surplus in US history to the largest deficit. |
Really ? Prove it.
Was it Bush's tax cuts?
Or was it a loss of revenue caused by an economic turn down (that started before Bush came to office ) a stock market meltdown (that started before Bush came to office ) , the WTC attacks ( that were planned before Bush came to office. )
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THE NATIONAL DEBT: Here's an interesting graph on debt accumulation in the last few decades and the presidents under whose watch it occurs. Here's an adjusted graph, putting the debt as a percentage of GNP. Draw your own conclusions.
- 5:46:00 PM
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/ |
http://www.filteringcraig.com/blog/archives/001427.shtml
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| The man never committed any war crime in Vietnam! |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The air force national guard kept Soviet planes out the US |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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Turned the largest surplus in US history to the largest deficit. |
Really ? Prove it. |
http://www.factcheck.org/article148.html
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Was it Bush's tax cuts?
Or was it a loss of revenue caused by an economic turn down (that started before Bush came to office ) a stock market meltdown (that started before Bush came to office ) , the WTC attacks ( that were planned before Bush came to office. )
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Ahh, yes. I seem to remember Bush saying he'd restore responsibility to the White House. In Republican terms, responsibility means "Blame Clinton."
If it was reversed, there's no way the republicans would let the Democrats weasel out of the question by blaming the previous administration. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I did not support Bush's tax cuts. I voted for Clinton , Clinton , Gore and then Bush. Just for the record.I don't blame Clinton for the business cycle, nor ought you blame Bush for the business cycle. I think Clinton was over all a good president on the other hand I don't think Bush has been a bad president. He had a to deal with a lot of things most of them were not his fault.
However , where is your proof that the tax cuts are the cause? Or that Bush is responsible for it all?
I mean is
Bush responsible for the economic turn down that started before he came to office? Which led to a loss of tax revenue?
Is he responsible for the stock market meltdown that happend before he came to office? Which led to a loss of tax revenue?
The destruction of the WTC and the war on terror has been a big drain on the US economy . Are you gonna blame it all on Bush?
Oil is now 65 dollars a barrel certainly this has had a major effect on the US economy and the loss growth and tax revenue. Is Bush responsible for peak oil too?
The US population is getting old and social security payments are will be going up. Is Bush responsible for that too?
Anyway the deficits will go up , but will they increase like that as % of US GDP?
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| Knowingly lied about Iraqi WMDs in order to invade Iraq. (Thereby iInfuriating most of the world and losing many previously steadfast allies.) Not to mention that these lies have lead to the deaths of almost 2000 US soldiers and Tens of Thousands of Iraqis. |
WMD? Saddam had an advanced nuclear program in the late 80s , and he even used WMD's on his own citizens.
Most of the world thought Saddam had WMDS. The US CIA also thought the US had them.
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(Thereby iInfuriating most of the world and losing many previously steadfast allies. |
You mean they were allies before 9-11? Prove it. The US has been resented by most of the world since the end of the cold war cause they don't want their to be hyperpowers.
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Tens of Thousands of Iraqis |
Oh are you making a humanitarian argument against the war? You' re argument is weak.
Really Saddam Hussein killed 300,000 in his 30 years in power ( doesn't include his war with Iran.) He would have killed even more if he hadn't been contained by the US. How many would he and his sons have killed over the next 30 years?
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| -Outed a covert CIA operative (Valerie Plame-Joe Wilson's wife) in order to tarnish a dissenting voice against the war (who verified that Iraq did not get yellowcake uranium from Niger) |
Joe Wilson wasn't truthful either you know. |
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