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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I assume that people will treat this with some scepticism, as it was on the BNP website. However, it is mentioned in two local newspapers and, had it been a similar attack on an Asian youth by a gang of whites, it would have been much bigger news.
As has been amply demonstrated, muslim apologists for suicide bombings, anti-semitism, holocaust denial and Shariah Law are fine. White nationalists are evil and should be roundly condemned. Do Butterfly and some of the other more left-leaning posters think this is hypocrisy of the worst order? |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I think this story has been posted before, but in keeping with all things dhimmi, this one takes the biscuit.
With such a hopelessly PC Police Force, I seriously doubt we will get to grips with the threat of radical Islam.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45571
Police officers in England's Bedfordshire county have been told to take off their shoes and not interrupt anyone praying during raids of Muslim homes, according to leaked guidelines.
The 18-point guide, under development before the recent London bombing attacks, says "the Muslim community feels victimized and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny."
The guidelines for police offers, according to the paper, include:
Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.
So, while PC Plod is asking for permission to enter the home, Kamal and his bag of cemtex exit out the back door!
Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.
God forbid a strand of hair be seen!
For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.
Do they extend this same courtesy to other suspected terrorist hideouts?
Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.
It gets better.
Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.
Now here's a conundrum. What if the police officers suspect a terrorist to be hiding behind a burkha? Can they ask him/her to remove it?
Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.
If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
Even though they may have plotted to kill and main, it's important that they're allowed to chant a few more 'Allah hu Akbars'.
Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.
You have to laugh really.
In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artifacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.
Simply unbelievable.
And let's not forget the 'green ribbons' that police wore in Nottingham to show solidarity with the muslim community.
Can't wait for the next display of subservience, and if I know my country we won't have to wait long!
It's as if these people (usually self appointed 'community leaders', or self-hating white liberals) are working from a manual entitled 'How to assist the BNP and the Far-right in electoral success'. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
I seriously doubt we will get to grips with the threat of radical Islam.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45571
Police officers in England's Bedfordshire county have been told to take off their shoes and not interrupt anyone praying during raids of Muslim homes, according to leaked guidelines.
The 18-point guide, under development before the recent London bombing attacks, says "the Muslim community feels victimized and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny."
The guidelines for police offers, according to the paper, include:
Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.
So, while PC Plod is asking for permission to enter the home, Kamal and his bag of cemtex exit out the back door!
Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.
God forbid a strand of hair be seen!
For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.
Do they extend this same courtesy to other suspected terrorist hideouts?
Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.
It gets better.
Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.
Now here's a conundrum. What if the police officers suspect a terrorist to be hiding behind a burkha? Can they ask him/her to remove it?
Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.
If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
Even though they may have plotted to kill and main, it's important that they're allowed to chant a few more 'Allah hu Akbars'.
Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.
You have to laugh really.
In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artifacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.
Simply unbelievable.
And let's not forget the 'green ribbons' that police wore in Nottingham to show solidarity with the muslim community.
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Absolutely pathetic. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
| As has been amply demonstrated, muslim apologists for suicide bombings, anti-semitism, holocaust denial and Shariah Law are fine. |
Who the f said this? who mate? who?
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| White nationalists are evil and should be roundly condemned. |
Yes, they should. Along with all extremists, including Muslim ones, and the BNP.
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| Do Butterfly and some of the other more left-leaning posters think this is hypocrisy of the worst order? |
Why are you bringing me into this?
I despise Muslim extremists. Fucking hate them. And have always been irritated that Councils and police constabularies have been asked to pamper to muslim (and other religious) senstivities. Sorry to disappoint you.
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| I wish the BNP could make some head way in general elections. |
Congratulations. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Congratulations. |
Is there any need for such sarcasm? You are better than that Butterfly. Irrespective of how strongly you have disagreed with me in the past you have always been able to do so in a reasonable way. Why haven't you bothered here? I am confident that you will, but until that time, I will refrain from explaining my remarks. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Butterfly wrote: |
| Congratulations. |
Is there any need for such sarcasm? You are better than that Butterfly. Irrespective of how strongly you have disagreed with me in the past you have always been able to do so in a reasonable way. Why haven't you bothered here? I am confident that you will, but until that time, I will refrain from explaining my remarks. |
Actually, my remark is quite earnest. Seriously, congratulations on your honesty. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Actually, my remark is quite earnest. Seriously, congratulations on your honesty. |
So is there anything in the BNP manifesto that you agree with? Have you read it? The main political parties in the UK can't be distinguished from each other, and they are equally afraid of offending ethnic minorities, thus we get moronic councils banning pig related objects from the work place. Is it the UK or Saudi Arabia? Of all the parties, only the BNP seem to be asking these sort of questions. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| So is there anything in the BNP manifesto that you agree with? |
Haha sure there is. There are bits of mein kampf that make sense on reading too.
But anyway, you've made this crossover, and all power to you, for your honesty. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
Asians in the UK beat white youth for no other reason than his skin colour.
The 31 year old victim was walking home early Sunday morning after a visit to his friend��s house in Heckmondwike, when he was attacked. He lost three teeth, suffered two black eyes and has bruising to the back of his head where he was kicked and punched.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=550
No reference to this attack on the BBC website. |
That's disingenuous: it was picked up by local news including http://www.spenboroughtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=384&ArticleID=1206741 but it's hardly national news is it? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Wangja"]
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| That's disingenuous: |
It might have been disingenuous if it had appeared on the BBC news website.
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| but it's hardly national news is it? |
The BBC once reported that an Asian doctor had a stone thrown at him as he was leaving work. (it missed and he wasn't even injured) This young lad was beaten up very badly. GBH (possibly even a section 18 here) is a very serious crime, especially with a racial motive aggravating it. If this had happened to an Asian man the newspapers would be all over it. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
Haha sure there is. There are bits of mein kampf that make sense on reading too. |
Very disappointing Butterfly. I will adjust my expectation levels accordingly.  |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| Who the f said this? who mate? who? |
In my hometown the local authorities allowed hundreds of muslims to march in the city centre. They were protesting against Israel. However, rather than make it a measured protest they decided that banners calling for another holocaust, and holding pictures up of the zyklon B symbol would do a much better job. Of course, thanks to the local authorities nothing was done to prevent it. On the contrary, the evil protesters were given a police guard! There are sure as hell a few apologists for muslim extremism in the local authorities in my hometown. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Butterfly wrote: |
| Who the f said this? who mate? who? |
In my hometown the local authorities allowed hundreds of muslims to march in the city centre. They were protesting against Israel. However, rather than make it a measured protest they decided that banners calling for another holocaust, and holding pictures up of the zyklon B symbol would do a much better job. Of course, thanks to the local authorities nothing was done to prevent it. On the contrary, the evil protesters were given a police guard! There are sure as hell a few apologists for muslim extremism in the local authorities in my hometown. |
Here is a photo of a BNP rally held last year
more extremist views, and again with police protection- freedom of speech applies even to people who say things you don't like.
That doesn't mean anyone can march wherever they want, whenever they want though- here's a news story about 'Anti-Nazi League' members not being allowed to protest outside a BNP event for example.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,11981,775301,00.html
Do you really think providing a police guard implies that the local authorities support the cause of a rally? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
| Here is a photo of a BNP rally held last year |
It's not here. Were they calling for mass murder? I never said I agree with everything they say anyway.
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| That doesn't mean anyone can march wherever they want, whenever they want though- here's a news story about 'Anti-Nazi League' members not being allowed to protest outside a BNP event for example |
Doesn't that make sense?
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| Do you really think providing a police guard implies that the local authorities support the cause of a rally? |
These muslims were calling for the mass murder of Jews. There are laws against that in the UK. Why weren't they adhered to? |
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bigverne

Joined: 12 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Who the f said this? who mate? who? |
As I showed further up in the thread, Tony Blair has a muslim holocaust denier and Zionist conspiracy theorist as an advisor on muslim relations, or some other such nonsense.
You might not think it's fine, but obviously Tony does. We already know that Cherie has few problems with fundamentalist Islam.
The head of the Muslim Council of Britain, Iqbal Sacranie (who was knighted!) said of Salman Rushdie, "perhaps death is too good for him". A recent Panaroma on BBC1 exposed the links between his organisation and fundamentalist groups, including virulently anti-Semitic ones. Instead of challenging these allegations his organisation insinuated that the program had been made by an powerful pro-Israeli group. He also refused to attend Holocaust memorial day on the grounds that it did not 'include' muslims.
I think you can see a pattern here.
The Muslim Association of Britain, is a Shariah supporting fundamentalist group that also has the ear of government.
Do you not find the trend slightly worrying, and do you not also find it highly hypocritical that the BNP are practically banned from the airwaves, yet every time I switch on my TV I have to listen to one of these whining imbeciles prattle on about 'Islamophobia'? |
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