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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Hey Russian-speaking people... (and other Slavic languages) Reply with quote

Can you read this? Does it look weird?

http://www.slovio.com/1/tekstis/index.html

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Scxastie i filozofia.
Profesor, ucxijt Slovio.Profesor filozofiaf pridil vof klas. Gda studentis sidili, profesor otbral iz sxuflad kontainer i polnil tof so kamenis. Posle voprosil studentis, esli dumajut, zxe kontainer es polnju? Studentis soglosili zxe kontainer es polnju. Posle to profesor otbral iz sxuflad klet so malju kamenis i sipal malju kamenis vof kontainer, trasil kontainer i ocxviduo zxe malju kamenis padali mezxu velju kamenis. Profesor vnov voprosil esli kontainer es polnju. "Es kontainer polnju?" Studentis usmehili i soglosili zxe es polnju. No tper profesor otbral iz sxuflad klet so pesok i sipal tof vo kontainer. Ocxviduo pesok vipolnil vse i naimalju dirkas mezxu kamenis. Tper bil kontainer pravdauo polnju. Posle to profesor gvoril: "So tut primer ja chcel pokazit zxe zxizn es takai kak tut kontainer. Velju kamenis simbolijut vazxnju predmetis vo vasx zxizn. Vasx rodzin, partner, zdrovie, detes...; vse predmetis ktor es tak vazxnju zxe esli bi vi onif utratili, to bi bil velm tragedju. Malju kamenis simbolijut inju, mensx vazxnju predmetis. Vasx sluzxba, domo, voz... I pesok es vse inju predmetis. Malostis. Esli vi polnite kontainer perv so pesok, ostatit nikai mesto dla kamenis.
Zxizn es odnakju. Esli utratite vrem i energia dla malostis, dla materju predmetis, vi nigda bu imat vrem dla predmetis ktor es realuo vazxnju. Darijte plus vnimanie dla vazxnju predmetis vo vasx zxizn. Igrajte so vasx detes, idijte tancit so vasx partner... Vsegda bu dost vrem dla delanie, dla cxistenie, dla varenie, dla zakupis... Vnimajte velju kamenis. Imajte cielis. Ostatju predmetis es tolk malju kamenis i pesok. Mnoguo scxastie."



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Zvestis.
- Dobrju utro.
- Dobrju utro. Sxto potrebite?
- Hcejm kupit gazet. Ktor gazet imajt maks novju zvestis?
- Kai zvestis iskate? Zvestis o sport, ekonomju zvestis, politju zvestis, ili zvestis o nasx grod?
- Iskajm gazet ktor imajt vse zvestis. Ja hce znat vse sxto es novuo vo Vsezem.
- Imame mnoguo razlicxju gazetis vo mnoguo razlicxju jazikas. Imame gazetis vo Rusju jazika, vo Polakju jazika, vo Germanju jazika, vo Angloju jazika i vo mnoguo inju jazikas. Vo ktor jazika vi hce cxitat zvestis?
- Iskajm gazet vo libktor Slavju jazika. Ne razumim inju jazikas, tolk Slavju jazikas. Sxto imate?
- Imame neskolk gazetis vo Slavju jazikas. "Belju Zvezd" es gazet iz nasx grod vo ktor vi mozx naidit vse skandalis, vse ubities, vse informacias o ludis vo nasx grod. "Velju Miacx" es gazet o vse sportis. Vo gazet "Velju Miacx" vi mozx naidit informacia o futbol, tenis, o plavanie i o vse inju sportis. Gazet "Vasx Dengis" es gazet o ekonom ktor imajt vse ekonomju zvestis iz celoju Zemla.
- Li imate tozx gazet o politia?
- Imame gazet "Mezxunarodju Okno"; to es gazet ktor imajt vse politju zvestis. Pogledijte tugde! Na pervju stranka pisajut zxe vo Azia es novju voina. Li vi uzx slisxil o tot voina?
- Ne, ja esxte ne slisxil. Prosijm podajte me din gazet Mezxunarodju Okno. Skolk to cenijt?
- To cenijt dva dolaris i piatdes stotikis.
- Blagodarijm. Do videnie.
- Do videnie.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the romanization there is so-so. Why?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's supposed to be a pan-slavic constructed language that they can all understand at first sight. No irregular verbs or grammar, easy to learn, that sort of thing. I don't know any Russian though so I was curious whether it actually made sense without having studied it before. Pretty much the Slavic version of Interlingua.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Hey Russian-speaking people... (and other Slavic languag Reply with quote

At first sight, I thought it was a conlang.


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Zvestis.
- Dobrju utro.
- Dobrju utro. Sxto potrebite?
- Hcejm kupit gazet. Ktor gazet imajt maks novju zvestis?
- Kai zvestis iskate? Zvestis o sport, ekonomju zvestis, politju zvestis, ili zvestis o nasx grod?
- Iskajm gazet ktor imajt vse zvestis. Ja hce znat vse sxto es novuo vo Vsezem.
- Imame mnoguo razlicxju gazetis vo mnoguo razlicxju jazikas. Imame gazetis vo Rusju jazika, vo Polakju jazika, vo Germanju jazika, vo Angloju jazika i vo mnoguo inju jazikas. Vo ktor jazika vi hce cxitat zvestis?
- Iskajm gazet vo libktor Slavju jazika. Ne razumim inju jazikas, tolk Slavju jazikas. Sxto imate?
- Imame neskolk gazetis vo Slavju jazikas. "Belju Zvezd" es gazet iz nasx grod vo ktor vi mozx naidit vse skandalis, vse ubities, vse informacias o ludis vo nasx grod. "Velju Miacx" es gazet o vse sportis. Vo gazet "Velju Miacx" vi mozx naidit informacia o futbol, tenis, o plavanie i o vse inju sportis. Gazet "Vasx Dengis" es gazet o ekonom ktor imajt vse ekonomju zvestis iz celoju Zemla.
- Li imate tozx gazet o politia?
- Imame gazet "Mezxunarodju Okno"; to es gazet ktor imajt vse politju zvestis. Pogledijte tugde! Na pervju stranka pisajut zxe vo Azia es novju voina. Li vi uzx slisxil o tot voina?
- Ne, ja esxte ne slisxil. Prosijm podajte me din gazet Mezxunarodju Okno. Skolk to cenijt?
- To cenijt dva dolaris i piatdes stotikis.
- Blagodarijm. Do videnie.
- Do videnie.


Understandable to a Russian speaker, but annoying.
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak Russian and Ukrainian...it's fairly easy...could work well with a Bulgarian, Czech, Slovakian, etc speaker as well
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear; that's what I thought. Understandable but a bit annoying. From other people I've heard that it looks most like Russian and Bulgarian but I know neither and wanted to check. They also said that using -s or -is for the plural didn't really impress them. This language was apparently made in 2001.
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its also understandable in Polish.. Sound more Ukranian tho.
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midgic



Joined: 14 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey funplanet....is that Charlie Watts in your avatar?

man, that's a splendid shot of Charlie...
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the annoying bit would be kind of like this (just off the top of my head):

He have many mouses, and like its. Mouses runned to far and he is become sad. Then he thinks maybe cry but mouses was come back and now he be glucklich.

Is that kind of what it looks like to all you Slavic speakers?
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Babayaga



Joined: 28 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To a speaker of Russian and Ukrainian, it's annoying to read the passage in a Latin alphabet. I dislike transliteration, it's really difficult to read,so I didn't bother to read the whole thing.

Otherwise, it was easy to understand and seemed more like Czech to me---it seemed to have the archaic forms that Czech has.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is in Cyrillic (same passage):


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����Ѭ��ڬ� �� ��ڬݬ�٬��ڬ�.

������֬��� ��ڬݬ�٬��ڬѬ� ���ڬլڬ۬� �Ӭ� �ܬݬѬ�. ���լ� ����լ֬߬�ڬ� ��ڬլڬݬ�, ���Ҭ�Ѭ� �ڬ� ����ݬѬ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� �� ���ݬ߬ڬ� ���� ��� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ�. �����ݬ� �Ӭ�����ڬ� ����լ֬߬�ڬ�, �֬�ݬ� �լ�ެѬ��, �ج� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� �֬� ���ݬ߬۬�? �����լ֬߬�ڬ� ���Ԭݬ��ڬݬ� �ج� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� �֬� ���ݬ߬۬�. �����ݬ� �����֬��� ���Ҭ�Ѭ� �ڬ� ����ݬѬ� �ܬݬ֬� ��� �ެѬݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� �� ��ڬ�Ѭ� �ެѬݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� �Ӭ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬��, ���Ѭ�ڬ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� �� ���Ӭڬլ�� �ج� �ެѬݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� ��ѬլѬݬ� �ެ֬ج� �Ӭ֬ݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ�. ������֬��� �Ӭ߬�� �Ӭ�����ڬ� �֬�ݬ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� �֬� ���ݬ߬۬�. "���� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� ���ݬ߬۬�?" �����լ֬߬�ڬ� ���ެ֬�ڬݬ� �� ���Ԭݬ��ڬݬ� �ج� �֬� ���ݬ߬۬�. ���� ���֬� �����֬��� ���Ҭ�Ѭ� �ڬ� ����ݬѬ� �ܬݬ֬� ��� ��֬��� �� ��ڬ�Ѭ� ���� �Ӭ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬�. ����Ӭڬլ�� ��֬��� �Ӭڬ��ݬ߬ڬ� �Ӭ�� �� �߬ѬڬެѬݬ۬� �լڬ�ܬѬ� �ެ֬ج� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ�. ����֬� �Ҭڬ� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� ���ѬӬլѬ�� ���ݬ߬۬�. �����ݬ� �����֬��� �ԬӬ��ڬ�: "���� ���� ���ڬެ֬� �۬� ����֬� ���ܬѬ٬ڬ� �ج� �جڬ٬� �֬� ��ѬܬѬ� �ܬѬ� ���� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬�. ���֬ݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� ��ڬެҬ�ݬڬ�� �ӬѬج߬۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ� �Ӭ� �ӬѬ� �جڬ٬�. ���Ѭ� ���լ٬ڬ�, ��Ѭ��߬֬�, �٬լ��Ӭڬ�, �լ֬�֬�...; �Ӭ�� �ܬ��� �֬� ��Ѭ� �ӬѬج߬۬� �ج� �֬�ݬ� �Ҭ� �Ӭ� ��� ����Ѭ�ڬݬ�, ��� �Ҭ� �Ҭڬ� �Ӭ֬ݬ� ���ѬԬ֬լ۬�. ���Ѭݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� ��ڬެҬ�ݬڬ�� �ڬ߬۬�, �ެ֬߬� �ӬѬج߬۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ�. ���Ѭ� ��ݬ�جҬ�, �լ�ެ�, �Ӭ��... �� ��֬��� �֬� �Ӭ�� �ڬ߬۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ�. ���Ѭݬ���ڬ�. ����ݬ� �Ӭ� ���ݬ߬ڬ�� �ܬ�߬�Ѭڬ߬֬� ��֬�� ��� ��֬���, ����Ѭ�ڬ� �߬ڬܬѬ� �ެ֬��� �լݬ� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ�.

���ڬ٬� �֬� ��լ߬Ѭܬ۬�. ����ݬ� ����Ѭ�ڬ�� �Ӭ�֬� �� �֬߬֬�Ԭڬ� �լݬ� �ެѬݬ���ڬ�, �լݬ� �ެѬ�֬�۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ�, �Ӭ� �߬ڬԬլ� �Ҭ� �ڬެѬ� �Ӭ�֬� �լݬ� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ� �ܬ��� �֬� ��֬Ѭݬ�� �ӬѬج߬۬�. ���Ѭ�ڬ۬�� ��ݬ�� �Ӭ߬ڬެѬ߬ڬ� �լݬ� �ӬѬج߬۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ� �Ӭ� �ӬѬ� �جڬ٬�. ���Ԭ�Ѭ۬�� ��� �ӬѬ� �լ֬�֬�, �ڬլڬ۬�� ��Ѭ߬�ڬ� ��� �ӬѬ� ��Ѭ��߬֬�... ����֬Ԭլ� �Ҭ� �լ��� �Ӭ�֬� �լݬ� �լ֬ݬѬ߬ڬ�, �լݬ� ��ڬ��֬߬ڬ�, �լݬ� �ӬѬ�֬߬ڬ�, �լݬ� �٬Ѭܬ��ڬ�... ���߬ڬެѬ۬�� �Ӭ֬ݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ�. ���ެѬ۬�� ��ڬ֬ݬڬ�. �����Ѭ�۬� ���֬լެ֬�ڬ� �֬� ���ݬ� �ެѬݬ۬� �ܬѬެ֬߬ڬ� �� ��֬���. ���߬�Ԭ�� ���Ѭ��ڬ�."
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

midgic wrote:
hey funplanet....is that Charlie Watts in your avatar?

man, that's a splendid shot of Charlie...


I was thinking the same thing, but having met him once upon a time, the pic makes him look far more serene than he actually is--he was often referred to by crew as "that SOB."
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