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benblex
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, South Corea
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:31 am Post subject: AVOID "Canadian School: Nick" |
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after i sent my picture, he said they were no longer interested because i wasn't a "native speaker" (read: gyopo). fine, they're racist and i was gonna let it go. but this guy keeps writing back about how he isn't a racist because he's not a korean native; he's a korean canadian, like that's supposed to make his hiring practices any less egregious. he continues to rant on self-righteously about how all gyopos have issues, etc. sadly, there are probably a lot of "nicks" out there. avoid this one like the plague.
Employer Information
"No Logo"
"No Website"
"No Photo"
Organization Name: Canadian School
Business Licence:
CEO Name: Nick
Contact Number: 010-9799-3639
Fax Number:
Address:
Job Information
Job Title: [E2] RELAX JOB, easy money, easy hours! Mon-Wed-Fri Hapjeong (8 min by bus) - Native wanted (no kyopo)
Job Category: Language/EFL
Salary Offered: KRW 1000000 per Month
Overtime Pay Offered: 0
Start Date:
Number of Positions Offered: 1
Working Hours/Month: 0
Type of Positions: Part-time
Job Location:
Housing Offered: -
Benefits Offered:
Teaching Level (If applicable):
Contact Name: Nick
Contact Email Address: [email protected]
Job Description
Monday-Wednesday-Friday 3pm to 9pm
Possibility of more hours in couple months!
E2 visa provided
STARTS OCT 17th
1,000,000W a month
Elementary students
Hagwon in Deungchondon (near E-mart in Yeumchandong)
10 min bus from Mokdong station or Hapjeong station
OWNED AND RUN BY A CANADIAN
We are looking for a native teacher, male or female.
Sorry, can't hire a Gyopo at this moment!
We need a young and energetic teacher to take care of our young students.
We will provide a lot of games to play with the students; you provide the energy and patience!
We are a new school with not many students at the moment, so there are few hours of real teaching for now, but more hours and more money are possible in a few months. Up to you if you want to work more after or keep it this way...
This position is ideal for somebody new in Korea or someone who wants to work only a few days a week. And it��s also a good position for a teacher with creative ideas! We will make changes to our curriculum if you think it��s necessary!
I'm really open minded and don't mind any suggestions concerning my adademy. I think this position would be ideal for somebody who is looking for a long time relationship with a good school.
We pay on time, we respect our engagements and we will make sure to help you as much as we can outside the school hours
Oh I almost forgot, We don't care about your personnal life, lol!!
What you do outside our walls doesn't concern us! Well almost everything..
Call me for more info
Nick 010-9799-3639 |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you apply to a school that's paying 1 mil a month anyway- that's about half of the average. Things aren't that desperate for gyopos, are they? |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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My thoughts exactly Peppermint. There's also no mention of housing or any other benefits. Why would anyone want to work there?
By the way why did you apply? The ad specifically mentions no gyopos. I know that's discriminatory but the guy is just building up his business and obviously wants to attract new students with a 'white' face to advertise that "hey we have a native speaker, we are legit, your sons and daughters will learn English from a real, live (insert nationality)" If that is what the market (Korean mothers) demand then so be it. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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fidel wrote: |
There's also no mention of housing or any other benefits. Why would anyone want to work there? |
Just in case some of you are a little slow on the uptake (sound familiar, fidel?)....
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Mon-Wed-Fri
...work only a few days a week...
Type of Positions: Part-time |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, people, don't pounce on him for not noticing that a Korean-Canadian discriminates against kyopos. It's just as common as Quebecer who resides in Alberta that won't hire someone because their French is too good.
OP, count yourself lucky you didn't get the job. A more experienced businessman, or a more diplomatic person, would have kept you waiting for an answer until he had found an applicant that suited his needs, thus avoiding confrontation and maintaining an appearance of professionalism and respectability. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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We all know full well that Koreans don't want Korean-looking people to teach their kids.
So you're saying this guy should take a stand against that, piss off his clientel, and lose money just so you can be happy about not be discriminated against?
Don't like it? Does it make you angry? Welcome to Korea, the country of your forefathers. Suck rocks, don't it?
Well, I have a little something that should make you feel better. You know all of those 'busts' that took place this past summer? The company jobs? Well, you'll now notice that a much larger number of company jobs are asking for Gyopo workers. Why? Because they know that immigration would not be able to figure out a Gyopo walking to an illegal job, as they would a white-looking foreigner.
So you should take comfort in the fact that things are indeed getting better. |
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mj roach
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: Avoid "Canadian school : Nick" |
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why no use of the "r" word re. the ads reading "gyopo only"? |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
fidel wrote: |
There's also no mention of housing or any other benefits. Why would anyone want to work there? |
Just in case some of you are a little slow on the uptake (sound familiar, fidel?)....
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...work only a few days a week...
Type of Positions: Part-time |
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Well yes it does, and you'll notice that it applies here too. As I said there is no mention of housing or any other benefits. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
fidel wrote: |
There's also no mention of housing or any other benefits. Why would anyone want to work there? |
Just in case some of you are a little slow on the uptake (sound familiar, fidel?)....
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Mon-Wed-Fri
...work only a few days a week...
Type of Positions: Part-time |
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Lets ignore the fact that you can't get an e-2 visa for those types of jobs, from his other posts, it seems that the OP isn't in Korea. Why would anyone not already in the country apply for that? |
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benblex
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Seoul, South Corea
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: clarification |
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just to clarify, the ad i posted on-line was one i found AFTER i applied. the specific add i was responding to did include housing (along with other perks) if i'm not mistaken. also, it did not mention that gyopos need not apply.
places like cdi are quick to advertise how gyopo-friendly they are. course, being surrounded by power-hungry gyopos isn't always a good thing, either. makes me wonder how the state of things are lately... |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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I see your point. It might make sense for a gyopo who would be staying with family or friends and coming over on a sort of a working holiday... but then the ad turns around and says no gyopos. It might make sense if you were applying from within Korea and looking to pick up a second job, but the OP said he 'sent in his picture', so yeah, why would they be recruiting abroad?
I missed these nuances the first time around.
It's wierd- they refuse this guy, but they can't possibly get anyone to fill that position...  |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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peppermint wrote: |
Why would you apply to a school that's paying 1 mil a month anyway- that's about half of the average. Things aren't that desperate for gyopos, are they? |
You didn't happen to read that this was a part time position?
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Job Title: [E2] RELAX JOB, easy money, easy hours! Mon-Wed-Fri Hapjeong (8 min by bus) - Native wanted (no kyopo) |
Korean hagwon owners are tied by the purse strings of their student's mothers. White skin, blonde hair. This is how it is here in Dynamic Korea. |
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nrvs

Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Location: standing upright on a curve
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: clarification |
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benblex wrote: |
places like cdi are quick to advertise how gyopo-friendly they are. course, being surrounded by power-hungry gyopos isn't always a good thing, either. makes me wonder how the state of things are lately... |
..."power-hungry gyopos" getting paid 3.5 million a month who don't waste their time whining about part-time jobs at hagwons stuck in an outdated, racist paradigm.
But hey, to each his own. |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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The state of employment in the ROK seems to be improving as, over the Since last month, we've been offered 3 positions (in uni and esl management) without finalizing anything for quite good terms. The highest paying job was for US$50,000 which required a Sept. start but, because of current commitments, we had to turn down.
I dare to speculate that the immi. crackdown and the all seeing eyes of the public(bongo drivers, competing hogwanistas, concerned citizens) have shaken too many trees of foliage.(illegal aliens morphed into ESL teachers)
Not everyone with a/any degree(authentic/verifiable) is all that keen to get a crash course in spincter management by coming over to ROK since, the turmoil(for newbies especially ) experienced by others, has been well-documented anywa, I reckon.
People with real degrees are going to be really hard to find soon(many other countries are in the Englishee market besides Korea). I cannot wait to see what transpires over the next 6 months.
Hopefully better treatment towards teachers , improved pay scales, grovelling k-employers(not!!)etc. So, hang out a big sock this xmas.
God is good! |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: |
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BTW: My fiancee is gyopo.
We believe more gyopos will be hired/headhunted(along with augmented conventional methods), especially, through churches(most networking is done in churches) via freelance recruiters to be lured by the sentimental 'land of your birth" bollocks, as teachers become tougher to find.
I'm sure when this occurs, the incidence of religious posts(No offence meant by this) may increase(many gyopos come to Korea hoping to help out and make a difference anyway they are able). As those hoping to help with strong Christian values arrive to lend a hand.
The problem I've seen many gyopo friends experience is that once they start their job(arrive in the ROK) they discover they're being discriminated against(read- paid less than the white fellas/gals IN the same school even) in the money they get.
I feel for them, I really do. I cannot imagine how painful that could be. It's an affront to their dignity. (read-treachery)
Box-on, you will win. |
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