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Nine S. Korean workers killed in building collapse

 
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject: Nine S. Korean workers killed in building collapse Reply with quote

Nine S. Korean workers killed in building collapse
Nine construction workers were killed and five others injured when concrete reinforcements collapsed during construction work on a logistics center here Thursday, police said. The nine workers fell to their death around 11:20 a.m. when concrete reinforcements of the second floor collapsed at the construction site in this town 80 kilometers south of Seoul.
Yonhap News (October 7, 2005)
http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20051007/410100000020051007012237E3.html
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funplanet



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a sad commentary on the state of construction safety regs here....I am certain someone was trying to cut costs by shoddy practices....

who pays? the poor construction workers...when will those responsible step up???
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A minor point perhaps, but the collapse was not due to collapse of the permanent building - and hence construction regulation compliance - it was due to collapse of temporary works or perhaps precipitate removal of those temproary works.

This does not help the poor guys who died for whom I extend my sympathies.
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Universalis



Joined: 17 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see these guys risking their lives doing such mundane, but necessary, things as washing windows and making buildings, and I think about how much they make compared to Joe CEO who's biggest risk in life is getting a paper cut while shuffling paperwork. Life just isn't fair.

Brian
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agraham



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Location: Daegu, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acording to the documentary I just watched called "Jongno, Winter", many construction workers are Chinese-Koreans who are treated like coolies, discriminated against in favor of western kyopos in immigration law and commonly cheated out of thier wages.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funplanet wrote:
It's a sad commentary on the state of construction safety regs here....I am certain someone was trying to cut costs by shoddy practices....

who pays? the poor construction workers...when will those responsible step up???


People get killed horribly on many construction job sites in North America. I'm sure safety regs need a lot of improving in Korea but one construction accident doesn't make for a sad commentary. Heck back in Seattle they were building a condo near my work and the worker elevator cable snapped and 3 workers were killed.
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funplanet



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In nearly 5 years here I have yet to see a welder wearing eye protection....saw a stone cutter this week, stone chips flying left and right, with absolutely no eye protection...

I guess kim-chi protects 'em
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I was an iron worker for years through university and 6 years after...worked many cities in N.A. Terrible safety violations, guys working to just bring home the bacon and never coming home ....4 guys I knew in my time died, more injured but kept sluggin away. I got into teaching after falling and a lot of workplace litigation.......7 weeks in the hospital on demerol and daydreams..

Point is, so seldom we look at the world we live in and realize its COST. the real cost and those who carry the shit pail.......I've lived both sides and all the working joe really wants is a bit more respect, a beer bought now and then and for someone to think from time to time about what they built.

When was the last time you were in a place and wondered how it was made?

DD -

PS. Corners are cut everywhere, nobody likes a straight line..
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When was the last time you were in a place and wondered how it was made?


In Korea, a heck of a lot actually. You walk past the building sites and see how they have poured the concrete too fast and chunks are already falling out, etc. One decent earthquake would probably send most of these buildings to the ground. They really aren't all up to a good standard of workmanship. I consider it quite a bit, but try to put it from my mind, as I need to live here.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to check this out to see if it had anything to do with the incredible series of explosive noises coming through my window tonight around dinner in Banpo-dong. It sounded like heaps of fireworks going off, but it wasn't even close to dark.

I'm sorry to hear about this collapse though.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:
In Korea, a heck of a lot actually. You walk past the building sites and see how they have poured the concrete too fast and chunks are already falling out, etc.


Assuming that they did "pour it too fast", why would it be falling apart because of that? "Pouring too fast" only affects large projects and the time required for curing and that isn't an issue in walls of regular thickness. Crumbling is the result of other issues.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funplanet wrote:
In nearly 5 years here I have yet to see a welder wearing eye protection....saw a stone cutter this week, stone chips flying left and right, with absolutely no eye protection...

I guess kim-chi protects 'em
Yes, they are very much like Canadians 40 years ago in terms of safety consciousness.
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