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Ex-Mayerthorpe RCMP commander frustrated by second-guessing over shootings

Mon Mar 7, 3:22 PM ET
MICHELLE MACAFEE

MAYERTHORPE, Alta. (CP) - The former RCMP commander in the town where four slain Mounties are being mourned said Monday he understands some of the second-guessing across Canada about how the force handled the killer.

But Kim Connell, a 29-year veteran who spent his last 10 years in the Mayerthorpe detachment, also said he's directing his anger and frustration at the justice system that gave James Roszko so much freedom to be the menace he was.

Roszko was a convicted pedophile who spent 2�� years in prison. But he managed to avoid jail over the years on numerous other charges ranging from assault to weapons offences.

"When these people show these violent natures, put them in jail," said Connell, who commanded the detachment and worked with slain officer Peter Schiemann.

"Quit listening to the sob stories of the defence counsel, 'Oh, my client's going to do better next time.' After two or three times it's obvious they're not going to be rehabilitated. Why are they out there?"

Police say Schiemann, 25, Anthony Gordon, 28, Brock Myrol, 29, and Leo Johnston, 32, were ambushed by Roszko, who was a known cop-hater and community pariah, in a metal Quonset hut they were guarding.

The officers had been staking out his property while investigating stolen car parts and a small marijuana grow operation.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=1&u=/cpress/20050307/ca_pr_on_na/rcmp_shootings

This certainly sheds some light on matters.

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Gunman who killed 4 Mounties in Alta didn't meet dangerous offender criteria
JOHN COTTER
Thu Oct 6, 6:31 PM ET

EDMONTON (CP) - The man who gunned down four Mounties last spring was flagged as early as 1995 for consideration as a dangerous offender, an Alberta justice report says.

But James Roszko's long criminal history did not meet the Criminal Code criteria for the designation that would have allowed authorities to keep him in jail indefinitely, says the report released Thursday.

That's despite a sexual assault conviction, weapons charges and dozens of other offences dating back to 1976.

"The Crown vigorously prosecuted Roszko to the fullest extent possible," says the review of Roszko's criminal records by senior Crown prosecutor Gordon Wong.

"At no time did Roszko meet the criteria to be considered for a dangerous offender application."

He was wounded twice by officers before he turned his weapon on himself.

Roszko had expressed a hatred for police for years.

Alberta Justice Minister Ron Stevens said the review did not find anything that could have foreshadowed what happened on the farm northwest of Edmonton.

"This was a horrific, unprecedented incident in which four officers lost their lives," Stevens said.

"A lot of questions were being asked about why this man with a lengthy criminal history was on the streets that day. I felt it was the government's responsibility to the public and the families to review the files to see if there is anything we could add to this puzzle."

The report notes that while Roszko, 46, faced 40 criminal charges during his life, not all were prosecuted. In one case, a common assault charge was stayed when subpoenas were not generated for the trial date.

Some of the cases did not proceed because witnesses either lied or failed to show up to testify.

For example, Roszko was charged in 1999 with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon after two men walked onto his farm to vandalize his property.

The men, one of whom was wounded by pellets from a shotgun blast fired by Roszko, eventually escaped, but during the police investigation they lied to justice authorities.

"The Crown's case against Roszko was seriously weakened to the point where the decision was made to call no evidence at trial," the report says.

Wong said there was no evidence that Roszko ever threatened any witnesses.

He also said that even if Roszko had been convicted of more offences over the years, there is no guarantee it would have led to him being designated a dangerous offender.

Roszko killed constables Anthony Gordon, 28; Leo Johnston, 32; Brock Myrol, 29; and Peter Schiemann, 25.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20051006/ca_pr_on_na/rcmp_shootings_roszko

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I have to say that I am disappointed with this discussion as a whole. I live in northern Alberta and this was a huge tragedy for us. It seems that no one has mentioned that the four RCMP officers were rookies, one of them on the job for less than two weeks. They were young, with very little experience, and had been placed there as guards more than officers.

I am disgusted that this thread was hijacked by US vs Canada b***s*** because it has nothing to do with this event. It's a pissing contest that no one should or will ever win because it's at the expense of the lives that these officers lived and the respect that they deserve.

I am however, proud of the way our city (Edmonton) and province dealt with honouring these men. On the day of the memorial, thousands of mounties marched in the city streets in their red serge (dress uniforms). It was a literal sea of red. And I am also proud and thankful for the police members that came to pay their respects, from all over North America. Yes, there were US officers from all over including Boston, Texas, and several others.

This was a thread started to show respect to those who were killed, not to decide if pot should be legal, or if Ralph Klein sucks, or even who is better, US or Canada. Some of you should be ashamed and embarrassed at your blatent attempts to sully these officers jobs and reputations.

I thank those of you who placed the articles for all to read. If for no other reason than to inform those whose are addicted to the world of casting general, generic opinions without a shread of proof, or information, and who are without the appearance of an intellect or ablility to search for the truth.

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Some modest proposals...


You know, if they took the criminality out of rape, occasionally a girl might enjoy it.

If you took the criminality out of child porn, maybe some poor child might have enough money to buy shoes for just a few pictures.

If you took the criminality out of PCP use, then there would have been no need to beat the hell out of Rodney King.

I have read some stupid lines, but that whole "desperados shooting people line" takes the cake.

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