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| Should Dr. Kissinger face a war crimes tribunal? |
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| It's all rather complicated |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Kissinger should be fast-tracked right past Milosovitch to the Haige. They guy is a terrorist who has warrants for his arrest in many countries. The man is a brute! He should be incarcerated |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
| Kissinger should be fast-tracked right past Milosovitch to the Haige. They guy is a terrorist who has warrants for his arrest in many countries. The man is a brute! He should be incarcerated |
So does this mean we can safely assume you voted "YES" ???  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:08 am Post subject: |
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I remember his subtle treachery in negociating the end to Rhodesia and south Africa all those years back. What an underhand snake: Africa was plunged into a future of misery at his hand. He plays both sides off against eachother, finding hurried but disastrous "solutions' to political problems, in order to further his own political career.
http://www.tldm.org/news2/kissinger.htm
Lock him up in Chikurubi and throw away the key. |
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Harpeau
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Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| Kissenger is the pox on the face of the Nobel Peace Prize committee. He should be forced to return the prize on his way to prison. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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That's interesting: 3 votes for "NO" but noone seems to want to explain why. Hmmmmmm ...
Overseeing widespread state sponsored assassinations, kidnapping, murder & genocide.
Chile ( paving the way for Pinochet ), Vietnam ( 2 million civilians murdered ), Cambodia ( how many did Pol Pot wipe out ?), East Timor ... i know i missed something.
Oh yah, half of a Nobel "Peace" Prize!!! That's quite something.
The very day after the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, Kissinger's syndicated column referred to Deng Xiaoping (China's leader) as "one of the great reformers in Chinese history" and a man "who chose a more humane and less chaotic course" [1] for China.
Though he later expressed shock at the "brutality" of the crackdown, the general trend of his statements have been to find excuses for the Chinese authorities.
A real class act & quite the role model for society 
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| He'll never see jail, but Hell (if there is such a place) is warming up just for him. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| He'll never see jail, but Hell (if there is such a place) is warming up just for him. |
Indeed. He should definitely be tried, even if not found guilty. Much hatred for America comes from the illegal things that he is responsible for, and that kinda pisses me off. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Chile ( paving the way for Pinochet ), Vietnam ( 2 million civilians murdered ), Cambodia ( how many did Pol Pot wipe out ?), East Timor ... i know i missed something.
Oh yah, half of a Nobel "Peace" Prize!!! That's quite something.
The very day after the Tiananmen Square massacre in China, Kissinger's syndicated column referred to Deng Xiaoping (China's leader) as "one of the great reformers in Chinese history" and a man "who chose a more humane and less chaotic course" [1] for China.
Though he later expressed shock at the "brutality" of the crackdown, the general trend of his statements have been to find excuses for the Chinese authorities.
A real class act & quite the role model for society :shock |
How did he pave the way for Pinochet?
What does Kissinger have to do with Pol Pot? All though North Vietnam helped him come to power.
Vietnam? Well North Vietnam killed just as many and North Vietnams invasion of the South was illegal.
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Secondary Level of Mass Murderers:
Obviously, we're going to run into the same vagueries and uncertainties when we try to rank numbers 4 through 10 on the list of the 20th Century's worst killers, but at least we can nominate the candidates. A pretty good case could be made that each of the following rulers (listed alphabetically) were responsible for over a million unjust, unnecessary or unnatural deaths by initiating or intensifying war, famine, democide or resettlement, or by allowing people under their control to do so:
Chiang Kai-shek (China: 1928-49 )
Enver Pasha (Turkey: 1913-18 )
Hirohito (Japan: 1926-89 )
Hirota Koki (Japan: 1936-37 )
Ho Chi Minh (North Vietnam: 1945-69 )
Kim Il Sung (North Korea: 1948-94 )
Lenin (USSR: 1917-24)
Leopold II (Belgium: 1865-1909 )
Nicholas II (Russia: 1894-1917 )
Pol Pot (Cambodia: 1975-79 )
Saddam Hussein (Iraq: 1969- )
Tojo Hideki (Japan: 1941-44)
Wilhelm II (Germany: 1888-1918 )
Yahya Khan (Pakistan: 1969-71)
Here are a few of the century's rulers who could easily be indicted for causing hundreds of thousands of unnatural deaths. Although some might be acquitted due to inadequite evidence or mitigating circumstances, it might be a good idea to not build statues to them.
Idi Amin (Uganda: 1971-80 )
Ion Antonescu (Romania: 1940-44 )
Ataturk (Turkey: 1920-38 )
Francisco Franco (Spain: 1939-75 )
Gheoghe Gheorghiu-Dej (Romania: 1945-65 )
Yakubu Gowon (Nigeria: 1966-76 )
Radovan Karadzic (Serbian Bosnia: 1991-96 )
Babrac Kemal (Afghanistan: 1979-87 )
Le Duan (Vietnam: 1976-86 )
Haile Mengistu (Ethiopia: 1974-91 )
Benito Mussolini (Italy: 1922-43 )
Ante Pavelic (Croatia: 1941-45 )
Antonio de Salazar (Portugal: 1932-68 )
Hadji Suharto (Indonesia: 1967-97 )
Tito (Yugoslavia: 1945-80 ) |
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm
And the US was right to fight the cold war. Many more would have died had the US not confronted the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union was an evil empire , illegitmate and had no right to exist.
As for East Timor how is Kissinger responsible for that? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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wtf ? Joo defending Kissinger's record.
Wow! Shocking ... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Igotthisguitar trying to go after the US
Ohh shocking. 
Remember Jeff Rense and Ernest Zundal admire and defend Hitler, just like their supporters.
The far right and the far left and the sicko cruel political cult of the two wants the US out of the way cause they will never get their agenda across unless the US government is weakened or destroyed. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| The far right and the far left and the sicko cruel political cult of the two wants the US out of the way cause they will never get their agenda across unless the US government is weakened or destroyed. |
Sicko political cult? Seems we agree on at least one thing here. Yes, the neocons are currently doing a fine enough job of destroying America.
Manipulating puppet Bush to do their bidding the country's quickly becoming more like AmeriKa everyday.
Faceless cowards indeed.
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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As for East Timor how is Kissinger responsible for that?
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When Indonesia began massing troops along the border with East Timor, Kissinger flew to Jakarta for 'discussions' with Suharto. After Kissinger left, Indonesia crossed over into East Timor and brutally occupied the country, killing over 300 thousand people.
Ironic that a man who came to America to escape genocide and persecution in Nazi German became responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses of the latter 20th century. |
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