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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: hiring a Hangul tutor? Reply with quote

anyone ever try this as an avenue to learning the language... i have several K coworkers that speak reasonably good English and i am considering offering them some cash for their teaching skills... hopefully the cash will keep it somewhat professional... any opinions on what i should offer?

i'm thinking about opening the bidding at 70,000 won a month for an hour a week? is this way too much or too little? my hagwon does one to one tutoring for about 50,000 an hour but the curriculuum is established and works, i figure without an established curriculuum i may be able to lowball my hagwon's rate a bit... thanks for the help...
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you were a friend I wouldn't work at that rate.

As for the efficacy of tutoring I've had mixed results. It's good to have someone to bounce questions off of, but only if they can explain properly. I've met Koreans who speak very good English yet don't seem to be able to explain Korean. (including one nice young woman I'm currently paying $40 a week). I've found it's best to study alone, soaking up the grammar and vocab from a book, then just talking with someone you feel comfortable with.

If you're in Korea why pay for a conversation partner? Of course if you're not...
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried to study on my own and it just doesn't seem to be working. I lose my motivation really quickly, it's just to easy to be drawn into web surfing or my other hobbies. I am hoping that the exchange of cash will make me take it more seriously, also these K-girl teachers at my school are pretty hardcore, at least when it comes to teaching English... it's part of their contract that they call their students in an attempt to keep them on task with their studies... not that $70 a month would probably get me that service.

$40 a week you say? What sort of stuff does she do for you? I've seen your other posts, your ability is quite good isn't it, like Intermediate at the very least? Does she have you do Korean crosswords or study TV shows.

Back to Korean crosswords, that would be an awesome learning tool. I give out English (specifically EFL) crosswords to my students as a fun way to help them learn vocabulary, but never thought about using a Korean crossword to learn myself... any ideas where I can pick some up?
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
What sort of stuff does she do for you? I've seen your other posts, your ability is quite good isn't it, like Intermediate at the very least? Does she have you do Korean crosswords or study TV shows.


I would say my level is low intermediate--well beyond survival, well short of conversational, mainly because I'm lazy about studying vocabulary. Movies and TV, I need subtititles.

We meet twice a week for an hour and a half a lesson. Before each lesson she e-mails me a short newspaper article or something to translate, and we go over how I did the next day. Anything I didn't understand I ask about, but she isn't good at explaining grammar. Anyway, then I ask general questions and we chat.

But, as with nearly everyone else who's taught me Korean, she at first wildly overestimated the difficulty of material that would be appropriate for me. The first few articles had a lot of idioms and too much new vocabulary (like 90%). So I had to tell her to make it easier, and suggested using children's newspaper articles. We'll see how it goes.

I've never seen a Korean crossword.
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hangul tutor? www.ublove.com
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Atkinson



Joined: 15 Oct 2004
Location: Land of the Golden Twist-tie

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: hiring a Hangul tutor? Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
anyone ever try this as an avenue to learning the language... i have several K coworkers that speak reasonably good English and i am considering offering them some cash for their teaching skills... hopefully the cash will keep it somewhat professional... any opinions on what i should offer?

i'm thinking about opening the bidding at 70,000 won a month for an hour a week? is this way too much or too little? my hagwon does one to one tutoring for about 50,000 an hour but the curriculuum is established and works, i figure without an established curriculuum i may be able to lowball my hagwon's rate a bit... thanks for the help...


Surely, you mean Hanguk tutor. You want to learn more than the alphabet, no?

As has been stated before, be very wary of assessing a person's teaching ability by their speaking ability. I've asked hundreds of questions about Korean grammar to native speakers fluent in English. Mostly I get answers like, "You'll have to memorize this list. I know it's hard." or, "Just do it this way. It's better. I don't know why." Imagine the relief when I hear something like, "That particle only comes after nouns, never after adverbs."

The one person who always answers my quesitons I happily pay W120,000 a week for 5 hours. The ridiculous fees are part of what keeps me on track. Frankly, I'd rather deal with the fallout from skipping my once-a-day call to the gf than not do my homework. This is good because I came here to learn Korean, not to date. My teacher moves fast, fast, fast, always pushing me. She also gets really down on me if I don't complete an assignment, or don't do a good job. It feels like �ѱ��� basic training camp, and that's what I want.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea that a co-worker who speaks reasonable English would be able to teach Korean is LAUGHABLE and the idea that anyone would tutor for 70,000 for 4 hours a month is INSULTING. Now the first one you have no way of knowing it's off-ball cause I think for most languages it wouldn't be as extreme as it is for Korean... but, yes, your co-worker CANNOT teach you and no, 70,000 would not be enough (you shoulf have known that from 50 per hour at your hagwon). If you want a real professional Korean teacher to tutor you (expect to pay at least 40,000 an hour, probably 50,000) then you can PM, I have contacts that could set you up with the best teachers in the country, full-time professionals.
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