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robitusson



Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: The a million and first time this question has been asked.. Reply with quote

Right, I'm gonna irritate the hell out of all the regular long term users here but I've searched high and low on the site and can't find this question which I'm sure has been asked loads of times. Here in Thailand the average a teacher makes a month is about 30, 000 Baht (750 Euro). If you have a degree, a celta and some experience you can get about 45 or 50 thousand (1000 Euro) a month for full time work. My question is what are the comparable monthly wages in S. Korea?
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-666-



Joined: 12 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can easily find a job for 2,000,000 won=about 2000$USD

The scale goes from about 1.8mil to 3.2 mil.

Surprisingly the higher the pay the less actual classtime you have to put in.

But realisitically 1.8-2.2 mil a month is currently the going rate.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Educational level, degree and experience are not really relevant in Korea. The basic 4-year degree is all that matters. Having more is nice, but won't get the average person a larger salary.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Educational level, degree and experience are not really relevant in Korea. The basic 4-year degree is all that matters. Having more is nice, but won't get the average person a larger salary.


True if you work at a hakwon

Untrue if you work at a public school. My TESOL and experience netted me an extra 200,000 won monthly.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with all this 4-year degree nonsense. I have a 3-year degree like most Brits and that hasn't stopped me teaching English in Japan or Korea. You don't need a 4-year degree to get a teaching job here or anywhere else. Most BA's in the UK are only for three years anyway, and it might be similar in Australia/New Zealand too. It seems like only Americans and Canadians study for four years.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Educational level, degree and experience are not really relevant in Korea. The basic 4-year degree is all that matters. Having more is nice, but won't get the average person a larger salary.


True if you work at a hakwon

Untrue if you work at a public school. My TESOL and experience netted me an extra 200,000 won monthly.


That's true, with my TESOl cert I get 2.1 at my public school gig whereas I got 2.0 at my hagwon. Not a huge increase, but it is nice to know that my hardwork is recognised.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovebdt wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Educational level, degree and experience are not really relevant in Korea. The basic 4-year degree is all that matters. Having more is nice, but won't get the average person a larger salary.


True if you work at a hakwon

Untrue if you work at a public school. My TESOL and experience netted me an extra 200,000 won monthly.


That's true, with my TESOl cert I get 2.1 at my public school gig whereas I got 2.0 at my hagwon. Not a huge increase, but it is nice to know that my hardwork is recognised.


Isn't 2.1 the base salary? You should be getting 2.2 methinks.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Untrue if you work at a public school. My TESOL and experience netted me an extra 200,000 won monthly.


TUM:

You're getting W200,000 more per month than the other people you work with who don't have a TESOL and experience?

You are lucky.



I wasn't comparing hakwons and public schools. I was trying to say that an employer will pick a salary, whether it's W1.9 or 2.2 or whatever, and pay everyone who works for him that salary, regardless of degrees and experience. That is almost always true here.

Or have things started to change?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - don't forget that in Korea you get return airfare, free apartment too. So, of that $2000pm, the vast majority of it is in your back pocket.
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Free World



Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Drake Hotel

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plato's republic wrote:
It seems like only Americans and Canadians study for four years.
I'm Canadian and my BA was a 3 year program. A lot of people choose the 4 year option but it is an option most of the time.

OP: You can make a lot more money here but you will likely work more hours than in Thailand.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
ilovebdt wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Educational level, degree and experience are not really relevant in Korea. The basic 4-year degree is all that matters. Having more is nice, but won't get the average person a larger salary.


True if you work at a hakwon

Untrue if you work at a public school. My TESOL and experience netted me an extra 200,000 won monthly.


That's true, with my TESOl cert I get 2.1 at my public school gig whereas I got 2.0 at my hagwon. Not a huge increase, but it is nice to know that my hardwork is recognised.


Isn't 2.1 the base salary? You should be getting 2.2 methinks.


Don't know mate. I am independant of GEPIK or EPIK. No biggie, extra money and fewer hours makes me happy Very Happy
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plato's republic wrote:
What's with all this 4-year degree nonsense. I have a 3-year degree like most Brits and that hasn't stopped me teaching English in Japan or Korea. You don't need a 4-year degree to get a teaching job here or anywhere else. Most BA's in the UK are only for three years anyway, and it might be similar in Australia/New Zealand too. It seems like only Americans and Canadians study for four years.


Some Canadian universities offer BA's that can be taken in three years.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why do a lot of hagwons insist upon hiring teachers with 4-year degrees? What's the difference? Confused
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