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JacktheCat

Joined: 08 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Back on topic,
Burberry man flashers that lurk outside girl's middle and high schools are just one of those weird quirks of Korean culture and are considered a rite of passage here. Take it for what you will. |
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idealjetsam
Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Location: Starting up and stopping.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: Outings with students |
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I don't know what people have said in the past and I don't know what peoples' online personae are like, but I think that quote from jackthecat ain't so bad.
I have taken my students out a number of times(not weekly, or anything crazy like that, I'm talking over the course of seven years). Pizza, field trips, movies, classes in Starbucks(for my smaller writing and content subject classes), etc. Korean teachers do it all the time, teachers back in North America do it all the time, why can't we?
Maybe if Koreans start seeing foreigners acting like mature professionals with a variety of Koreans in a variety of situations stereotypes about why we are here, like those that fueled the incident jtc was involved in, will begin to fade.
And, for the record, parents, other students, Korean staff and casual onlookers have all noticed and taken note with appreciation of these little class trips. And, yes, it was a girls high school and I am a male teacher. The only problem has ever been one of "When is it our turn Mr. ****?"
Caveat: If that outing took place right after the Hyo-Sun and Mi-Seon incident, might have been a tad shy of prudent, I am talking in general.
Peace. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I asked my wife about this. She said these flashers ONLY goto secluded girls high schools or middle schools.
My wife went to a girls middle/high school and told me at least once a year they had a flasher.
I laughed at the advice the teachers tell the students:
ignore the guy
I'd think laughing and telling him his wank is so small he really shouldnt be flashing it would prolly get the guy to stop. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I taught some 6th graders after school for a while, and one day they told me of a flasher visiting their school. Sick. |
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idealjetsam
Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Location: Starting up and stopping.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| I asked my wife about this. She said these flashers ONLY goto secluded girls high schools or middle schools. |
My high school was right downtown. Five minutes from City Hall and that guy was there all the time.
And yeah, ignore him and he'll go away. You have go to be kidding me... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Outings with students |
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| idealjetsam wrote: |
I have taken my students out a number of times(not weekly, or anything crazy like that, I'm talking over the course of seven years). Pizza, field trips, movies, classes in Starbucks(for my smaller writing and content subject classes), etc. Korean teachers do it all the time, teachers back in North America do it all the time, why can't we?
Maybe if Koreans start seeing foreigners acting like mature professionals with a variety of Koreans in a variety of situations stereotypes about why we are here, like those that fueled the incident jtc was involved in, will begin to fade.
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My best kids I do this too. Sometimes when the weather is nice we'll have class out doors. There aren't a lot of nice places outside, mind you. That mostly means sitting outside on a 7-11 patio eating ice cream. A couple weeks back I took my grade 5ers to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. One thing I have noticed, during any of these outside activities, some 50ish Korean man always stops and watches us. Creeps me out.
Yeah, when the other kids find out they can get pretty pissed off. "Teacher why not us!" I wish I could explain to them in Korean "Because your behavior in class is so poor it makes me want to do nothing special. If you were well behaved like that other class, I would do nice things for you. You see the connection? Act nice. I act nice. Act like little savages, you get nothing other than what I'm contracted to do."
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Veronica

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| He wouldn't be able to get through the gates at my school - they have someone on the gate the whole time school is open. |
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