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Octavius Hite

For those of you who don't know, Marc Emery is a Vancouver based buisnessman and political activist. He is head of the BC marijuana party and has been arrested in Canada by the DEA. This is a clear violation of Canada's soverignty by the jack-booted thugs of the DEA.

Did Emery commit a crime? Yes. Did he commit a crime in the USA? No. He should be tried and (if found guilty) sentenced in Canada. You can sign the petition to stop this injustice here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Emery/petition.html

You can call Canadian Justice Minister Irwin Cotler and let him know that this challenge to Canadian soverignty and law is a poor decision at these numbers:

Justice Department Offices (Ottawa) 613-992-4621
Irwin Cotler's Parliament Office 613-995-0121
Irwin Cotler's Constituency Office 514-283-0171

So expats use some of those phone card minutes to make sure the American war on pot doesn't spread to Canada. Emery is facing life in prison for a crime in Canada that would get him 3 years. Thats not cool!

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Is this the guy who was using the post office to smuggle pot into the US?

Octavius Hite · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:

No, he sold seeds for marijuana over the interenet. He paid canadian taxes and the canadian government did nothing about it except take the tax dollars.

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

Granted, I think marijuana should be legal.

However, if he shipped seeds to the States via the mail, that is a felony. Each time he did it is one count. Canada is an extradition treaty country.

Had he only sold seeds to Canadians in Canada, there would be nothing that the DEA could do. But, he didn't. He sent seeds across the border, and now he's no different than any cartel that ships kilos of yayo from south of the border. Could he have been a bigger idiot?

Once his seeds crossed the border, it became Canada forcing their drug policy on the States.

Don't try to make the DEA out to be the bad guy on this one. They are doing what they are supposed to do: stop illegal drugs from entering the United States.

Octavius Hite · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject:

The problem Pligganease is that the Canadian government knew what he was doing for ten years and they were collecting taxes on the profits for ten years. That means that the law prohibiting becomes invalid or the Canadian government should be charged as well.

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

Octavius Hite · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

Aned extradition can only be used if the crime is considered a crime in both countries and since our spineless government collected taxes, I am hoping this extradition hearing will fail.

Manner of Speaking · Joined: 09 Jan 2003

Octavius Hite · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject:

The problem is that the Canadian government collected taxes and refused to prosecute the man, that sends the very clear signal that the law is no longer valid and if the law is invalid in Canada, extradition doesn't apply.

riley · Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me

Octavius,
That's the thing about the internet. Illegal actions in one country aren't illegal in others. Laws about social issues definitely vary from country to country. Whether we disagree with them or not, that country made the law and as adults, we should be prepared to take the consequences of our actions.
In other words, Marc Emory should have known about U.S. drug laws. In fact, he probably did know about it. So, it sucks, but he has to accept the consequences.
As a liberal, what bothers me, is seeing too many people wanting the liberal lifestyle, but not wanting to foot the bill. It shouldn't be an excuse to avoid responsibility. If you want a better environment, help create solutions, don't simply eliminate old ways and criticize. If you want feminism, accept the fact that men and women should be judged exactly the same for the same actions. If you want looser drug laws, accept that there will be people who will take too much of it (like alcoholics), answer the question, what should we do about them? This is why conservatives find it so easy to attack us.

riley · Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me

Also, Octavius, who are you angry at? The U.S. or your government?

Octavius Hite · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:

First off, Im p*ssed at the Canadian government for letting this go on. We all know what crazies the DEA are so this is not unexpected.

However I disagree with you on your argument. If the laws are different between the countries the person to get arrested should be the person who recieved the goods. An example, a perscription drug is legal in the US but is not yet approved in Canada. A US internet company is more than able to sell the product to anyone, anywhere. If a person imports it they are breaking the law so that person should be charged. The same example applies to copyrighted music, see US companies Vs. China.

The DEA should have arrested those who bought Emery's seeds they had no right to get a Canadian warrant and tell the Canadian police who to go after. Everyone knows that the reason this happend at all was the Canadian government didn't want to deal with this man so they have tried to spin him off to the Americans. Even the head of the DEA has said this was a politically motivated arrest, see here:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/235421_joel05.html

riley · Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me

dulouz · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus

I can't sign because I'm not Canadian but I will show my eButt Crack to the DEA. (|)!!!!

Get a life DEA!!!

Manner of Speaking · Joined: 09 Jan 2003