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Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Nowhere Man: I'm confused.

I post new and, I think, relevant data on a thread. At least three other posters apparently agree to one degree or another that it's relevant, and they post comments.

Mith comes around and agrees with at least 50% of the claims presented in my source, while discounting others.

Then you post a message that chants my name several times, and calls me "flaccid" (again).

I don't know why I've been your project for so long, but I guess it's OK, we all need hobbies -- and some of us even need obsessions.

In any case, you said my name -- what, five times? -- and you attacked me personally. But is there a question in there anywhere that I'm supposed to address or was this just your weekly personally-attack-gopher-and-attempt-to-undermine-whatever-he-says therapy?

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

Nowhere Man,

I fully understand what you are saying. However, I must agree with Gopher that this information is quite relevant to the thread.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Mith: thanks for the post. I agree that talking about the word "culture" is problematic. The academe distinguishes between "high culture" (elites, etc.), "culture" (the subject of cultural anthropology), and "Culture" (Eurocentric, ninteenth-century racist connotations).

I think the author of that doc was talking about Culture, and in the way many uninformed people do. So I'd agree with you that it's not really measurable or even meaningful to say "Canada has no culture" -- something I wouldn't agree with in any case, that is, whichever use of the word was intended, because culture exists anywhere there are two or more human beings.

However, I'm glad you brought that up. Because this isn't about objective conditions in Canada. This is about immigrant perceptions. And perceptions, as you know, are entirely subjective.

So I'm not arguing whether they are right or wrong -- even though I'm glad you can agree that they are at least partly right, which would tend to undermine our friend's claim, by the way, that they are "wingnuts." Rather, I'm merely presenting their views on immigrant life in Canada.

And it's relevant because many Canadians on this board cite a better life in a more tolerant, multicultural, etc. country. Well, what do the immigrants think about it? That was the point of citing that webpage. There's a lot of data on that webpage. Did you check it out?