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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: A sad end to a promising career |
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After 2 months, a good friend of mine is leaving Korea for China.
He got married to a chinese woman in August and after he came back to Korea, he tried to get an F-1 visa for her to stay with him here.
They wouldn't help him and refused to give him a reason other than she is simply Chinese.
Now he has to leave a great uni position to be with his wife in China.
I feel for him because he loves his job and wanted nothing but to be with his wife.
During one of his visits to the immigration office with his wife, I went along to see what the deal was.
The people in the chinese visa section were some of the nastiest people I have ever met in immigrations. One officer even remarked that the reason his wife was in Korea was to be sold to a club and wh*ored out to the US soldiers~ I found that comment completely inappropriate for an officer that dealt with foreigners on a daily basis.
I really feel bad for him.... |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
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That's utterly despicable! How could they do that?!
It's about time we use our collective power to write and complain about stuff to people in higher offices - they might not know what is going on lower down.
Korean people honestly really do think they are better than all other asians, don't they?? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(I feel very strongly about this, being Chinese and all myself). |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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The same thing happened to a co worker of mine a few years ago, except his wife was Thai. |
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cubanlord

Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: |
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you know what, I completely understand why he is leaving the job that he loves so much. I am here teaching in Korea for the sole purpose of being with my wife. She wanted to come here and teach (The Lord only knows why), so I came. |
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mercury

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
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one time my ex korean girlfriend and I were flying to central America. We had a stop over in the U.S and those officials treated her the same way. They took her photo, fingerprinted her, and then this big black lady took her to a waiting room until our departure left. She was almost crying. I guess the U.S really treats the Korean women without visas like potential ladies of the night.
(actually, this girl was a princess, it was kind of funny to see her realize that the whole world did not consider her a princess) |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: Re: A sad end to a promising career |
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lastat06513 wrote: |
After 2 months, a good friend of mine is leaving Korea for China.
He got married to a chinese woman in August and after he came back to Korea, he tried to get an F-1 visa for her to stay with him here.
They wouldn't help him and refused to give him a reason other than she is simply Chinese.
Now he has to leave a great uni position to be with his wife in China.
I feel for him because he loves his job and wanted nothing but to be with his wife.
During one of his visits to the immigration office with his wife, I went along to see what the deal was.
The people in the chinese visa section were some of the nastiest people I have ever met in immigrations. One officer even remarked that the reason his wife was in Korea was to be sold to a club and wh*ored out to the US soldiers~ I found that comment completely inappropriate for an officer that dealt with foreigners on a daily basis.
I really feel bad for him.... |
Hub of Asia??? My A$$!!!!! |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:50 am Post subject: |
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[quote="mercury"] I guess the U.S really treats the Korean women without visas like potential ladies of the night. quote]
Actually...you're not far off!
The unspoken word is that korean women are the majority of foreign "workers" in the U.S. who are arrested for prostitution.
There is not a major city in the U.S or Canada that does not have korean massage businesses. In fact...most of the massage businesses are korean owned. Ask the IRS as well!
Prove it wrong! |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:10 am Post subject: |
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~~But that was not the end of the story....
He told me a few days after we all went there together, he went online and found alot of information regarding immigration procedure and went around collecting documents that might support his case. He went back there with it.
Not only did they refuse him, the senior officer took him aside to ask him for "a gift" that could persuade him to turn the other cheek.
Is this how immigration truly operates?
Why pay for to allow someone to be united with their family?
I can understand the 60,000 won processing fee, but a million won? |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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mercury wrote: |
one time my ex korean girlfriend and I were flying to central America. We had a stop over in the U.S and those officials treated her the same way. They took her photo, fingerprinted her, and then this big black lady took her to a waiting room until our departure left. She was almost crying. I guess the U.S really treats the Korean women without visas like potential ladies of the night.
(actually, this girl was a princess, it was kind of funny to see her realize that the whole world did not consider her a princess) |
This is why I refuse to fly through the states on my way to Canada. I did it about 5yrs ago with my wife and they had a security guard with her the whole time. They pressured her when she was getting her ticket and so she forgot her airline membership card at the counter...as a Canadian I could do whatever I wanted, but it sucked seeing her treated like a freakin criminal.
At least back then was before 9/11 so no fingerprinting etc. |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
That's utterly despicable! How could they do that?!
It's about time we use our collective power to write and complain about stuff to people in higher offices - they might not know what is going on lower down.
Korean people honestly really do think they are better than all other asians, don't they?? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(I feel very strongly about this, being Chinese and all myself). |
Strangee because I just got a spousal visa for my wife who is Indonesian and they are considered high risk when it comes to working illegaly. Tzechuk, I doubt whether all the huffing and puffing in the world would work here. I say its time to get out and go elsewhere, then start calling Koreans to account by treating them the way they treat us, boycotting their products and generally telling others what a bunch of freakin nazis they are. |
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mercury

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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jaganath69 wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
That's utterly despicable! How could they do that?!
It's about time we use our collective power to write and complain about stuff to people in higher offices - they might not know what is going on lower down.
Korean people honestly really do think they are better than all other asians, don't they?? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(I feel very strongly about this, being Chinese and all myself). |
Strangee because I just got a spousal visa for my wife who is Indonesian and they are considered high risk when it comes to working illegaly. Tzechuk, I doubt whether all the huffing and puffing in the world would work here. I say its time to get out and go elsewhere, then start calling Koreans to account by treating them the way they treat us, boycotting their products and generally telling others what a bunch of freakin nazis they are. |
Actually they feel insecure around the Japanese. Really. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Location: Korea Exited
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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The U.S immigration process, like someone mentioned before, is completely brutal. My husband and I have been separated for over two months now because we're waiting for his U.S visa...so the men suffer as well. I'm thinking his visa is going to take about 6 months and cost me well over $500. Damn...all I want is my husband to be with me. I know many couples who have to hire immigration lawyers because the just so their spouse can set foot in the U.S...we're talking thousands of dollars just to get their spouse reunited with them...it's a joke.  |
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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PCTG that blows serious monkey ass. Sad to considering it's even apparent to a social reject like myself that you love his gimchee chomping behind.
@!#$!@#$!@#@#!@#%@#$^@$% immigration officers no matter what country they come from. !@#$!@#$!@#$@# buggers.
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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mercury wrote: |
Actually they feel insecure around the Japanese. Really. |
I've noticed something like that. A Korean girl once tried to explain to me the difference between the Japanese and most Westerners vis-a-vis criticising Korea. I was at a dinner hosted by the Seoul bureau of a Japanese TV network, and there were other Korea-based Japanese reporters there too. I ended up sharing a taxi part of the way home with a Korean reporter who works for one of their offices and who speaks fluent Japanese.
She told me she didn't like those dinners because the Japanese would always put down Korea, and she hated having to sit there and laugh along through the pain. (She confessed they were pretty funny, some of the digs.) I assured her that Koreans probably comes in for worse beatings when Westerners get together. She said (something like) "Oh, but it's completely different with Westerners. They don't really understand things here, the culture, the language. If a Korean insults a Westerner, he/she loses their cool, they get mad, they get irate, they try to hit back, etc. So we think everything's equal then. "Same-same." But not with the Japanese. They know Koreans better, they know how to hit us where it hurts and without getting emotional. It's more devastating. It makes us feel helpless. " |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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~ I have been here almost 10 years.
~ I was a tourguide on the DMZ.
~ I taught Korean tourism to Korean tourguides for 2 and a half years.
I would think I have SOME understanding about Korea, outside those of us who are married to one.
I think that the process of entering Korea and the U.S. is completely different.
~ The U.S. has standard immigration procedures that MOST countries have to follow.
~ I think the U.S. immigration officers have SET guidelines to follow or rule from, not just depending on how they feel on a particular day.
~ Immigration guidelines are determined based on LOGICAL information and not based on generalizations from popular perception or from impressions derived from media reports.
And this is only my opinion
The threat to the U.S. is a REAL terrorist threat.
The Threat to Korea (from China) is ONLY an economic threat.
So, whats the deal? |
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