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So can I eat the chicken here and not die?
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: So can I eat the chicken here and not die? Reply with quote

Can I, can I, huh, huh?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent heard of Korean chicken imparting immortality.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several times a week. No problem.

You can even eat the raw eggs that sit in the back of an open truck getting warm all day long.

And you could do it for years without getting sick.

I have.
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inthewild



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Holy Grail of Chicken huh?
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Maserial



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I havent heard of Korean chicken imparting immortality.


It's only a matter of time until some enterprising scientist makes such an astounding discovery.

and/or

There will be an article in the Korean Herald testifying that Korean chicken is, in fact, one of the major contributing factors to the success of Korean women in the LPGA.

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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This bird flu hoopla makes me so pissed.

1. If people didn't eat chickens, there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of chickens be killed these days to stop the spread of the flu.

2. I bet the number of people dying from bird flu is a zillion times lower than just about every other disease out there... but it gets all this coverage and funds. Let a few chicken eaters die, try to cure something like AIDS instead...

Jeez.

(ps no bird flu deaths in Korea yet)
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents called me a panic at 6am yesterday telling me that NZ was closing the borders in the event of bird flu so I better get on a plane now.

I thought we had some bird flu cases last year?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the flu virus won't survive the cooking process. Yesterday my GF and I went for Chinese food and she was concerned about ordering a chicken dish.

"Assuming it was a risk, I guess you have to choose then. Order the chicken get bird flu. Order the beef and get BSE. Order the fish and you might be eating some of those cancer causing fish they caught recently in Korea. Then there's all the toxins and mercury in the fish. Pork. Well, pigs are another major source of flu in humans. So, errr, stick to water. Oh wait. Typhoids..."
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
This bird flu hoopla makes me so pissed.

1. If people didn't eat chickens, there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of chickens be killed these days to stop the spread of the flu.

2. I bet the number of people dying from bird flu is a zillion times lower than just about every other disease out there... but it gets all this coverage and funds. Let a few chicken eaters die, try to cure something like AIDS instead...

Jeez.

(ps no bird flu deaths in Korea yet)


Let me get this straight: you're advocating the death of human beings over birds that can't even fly?

Sparkles*_*
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can eat chicken, but make sure you eat some miracle kimchee with it if you don't want to die!
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been about 60 human deaths worldwide from poultry flu.
All of them in places like Vietnam or North korea- eating uncooked meat and even digging up dead birds from the ground and eating them.

The risks are supremely low of catching bird flu. The main victims by far have been the poor birds.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:

Let me get this straight: you're advocating the death of human beings over birds that can't even fly?

Sparkles*_*


C'mon, get real... we've had hundreds of thousands of birds killed but as Rapier says above about 60 human deaths. And the sad thing is, most of those birds had only a suspicion of being infected.

Actually, unless I am reading the newspaper wrong, you CAN get bird flu from cooked chicken, the 13th (total so far) guy to die in Thailand (I think he died last week) died because he took his neighbors dead (of bird flu) chicken home and cooked and ate it.

So, let me ask you, do you think it's good to kills all these birds and spend a lot of research money on bird flu when other much more deadly diseases are allover this planet?
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:

Let me get this straight: you're advocating the death of human beings over birds that can't even fly?

Sparkles*_*


C'mon, get real... we've had hundreds of thousands of birds killed but as Rapier says above about 60 human deaths. And the sad thing is, most of those birds had only a suspicion of being infected.


I would rather a billion chickens die than one human being. I don't think I'm alone on this. I guarantee you a lot more birds are killed every day to fill our bellies. So why is their slaughter as a precautionary measure so lamentable to you? They're birds for chrissakes, not human babies.
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So, let me ask you, do you think it's good to kills all these birds and spend a lot of research money on bird flu when other much more deadly diseases are allover this planet?


Perhaps. I have no idea how much money is being spent on everything. I do know that our daughter isn't going to die of AIDS; and cancer is nonexistent in our families. But she might eat chicken, as most people do -- and I would hope that it couldn't potentially kill her (or me, or my wife...or you or anyone you know). You're comparing one sickness to every other one, which is illogical.

Sparkles*_*
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rapier



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:


I would rather a billion chickens die than one human being. I don't think I'm alone on this. I guarantee you a lot more birds are killed every day to fill our bellies. So why is their slaughter as a precautionary measure so lamentable to you? They're birds for chrissakes, not human babies.


I'm going to be very pis*ed the day people start killing wild birds over this.

Think about it. Humans created this disease and this problem. Then we kill thousands of birds that are its victims.
Keeping millions of chickens cramped on battery farms is highly unnatural. This is where the virus was first discovered, where it spread, where birds first became resistant to it, and where the first human victims (people handling chickens & turkeys) came about.

To me humans are the most destructive species on the face of the planet. We create imbalances in nature, and a huge series of resulting problemsa and diseases. Then we punish and blame the victims- birds and animals, compounding the problem.
The animals are not our enemy: it is us.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan killed some cage full of song birds Friday that had come in on a boat (illegally) from China. We aren't just talking about chickens here, folks. We are talking about a threat to eagles, osprey, robins, kestrels, finches, starlings etc. etc.

If we weren't so selfish as to raise all these animals for no purpose other than filling our own bellies, this problem would never have arisen.

If you are so worried about bird flu, stop eating birds.

Of course I lament human death, but does that mean I can turn a blind and callous eye to the daily reports of thousands of birds being killed? Of course not!

If a cure is so important, try to cure the birds, for crying out loud. They did nothing to deserve this.
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