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sundubuman · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul

Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction

Wednesday October 26, 2005 3:31 PM

AP Photo AKCF101

By NASSER KARIMI

Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's hard-line president called for Israel to be ``wiped off the map'' and said a new wave of Palestinian attacks will destroy the Jewish state, state-run media reported Wednesday.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also denounced attempts to recognize Israel or normalize relations with it.

``There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world,'' Ahmadinejad told students Wednesday during a Tehran conference called ``The World without Zionism.''

``Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury, (while) any (Islamic leader) who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world,'' Ahmadinejad said.

Ahmadinejad also repeated the words of the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who called for the destruction of Israel.

``As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,'' said Ahmadinejad, who came to power in August and replaced Mohammad Khatami, a reformist who advocated international dialogue and tried to improve Iran's relations with the West.

Ahmadinejad referred to Israel's recent withdrawal from the Gaza Strip as a ``trick,'' saying Gaza was already a part of Palestinian lands and the pullout was designed to win acknowledgment of Israel by Islamic states.

``The fighting in Palestine is a war between the (whole) Islamic nation and the world of arrogance,'' Ahmadinejad said, using Tehran's propaganda epithet for the United States and Israel. ``Today, Palestinians are representing the Islamic nation against arrogance.''

Iran does not recognize the existence of Israel and has often called for its destruction.

Israel has been at the forefront of nations calling and end to Iran's nuclear program, which the United States and many others in the West say is aimed at acquiring weapons of mass destruction. Iran says the program is for generating electricity.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Ahmadinejad's comment ``reconfirms what we have been saying about the regime in Iran. It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions.''

French Foreign Minister Jean-Baptiste Mattei condemned Ahmadinejad's remarks ``with the utmost firmness.''

Harsh words for Israel are common in Iran, especially at this time of year, the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. In Iran, this Friday - the last Muslim day of prayer in the Ramadan holiday - has been declared Quds Day, or Jerusalem Day. Rallies were slated in support of Palestinians - and against Israel's occupation of parts of the city and other Palestinian lands.

Other Iranian politicians also have issued anti-Israeli statements, in attempts to whip up support for Friday's nationwide Quds Day demonstrations.

But Ahmadinejad's strident anti-Israeli statements on the eve of the demonstration were harsher than those issued during the term of the reformist Khatami and harkened back to Khomeini's fiery speeches. Ahmadinejad was a longtime member of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards, which even operates a division dubbed the Quds Division, a rhetorical reference to Tehran's hopes of one day ending Israel's domination of Islam's third-holiest city.

After his election, Ahmadinejad received the support of the powerful hard-line Revolutionary Guards, who report directly to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Last year, a senior member of the guards attended a meeting that called for and accepted applications for suicide bombers to target U.S. troops and Israelis.

Iran announced earlier this year that it had fully developed solid fuel technology for missiles, a major breakthrough that increases their accuracy.

The Shahab-3, with a range of 810 miles to 1,200 miles, is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East.

sundubuman · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul

Any leader who calls for the destruction of another country deserves a swift bullet to the brain.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Nothing new, nothing surprising here.

Among other things Iran has been upset about the heavy Israeli backing the Kurds have been getting.

And Israel is the only hope for nuclear non-proliferation in the region, much to the chagrin of Iran...

Could that speech have had an embedded trigger to terrorist groups? Is a new wave of suicide bombings underway, or is this simply a coincidence:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/10/26/international/i080606D60.DTL

"Five Killed in Bombing at Israeli Market"

hypnotist · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock

... film at 11.

mithridates · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:38 am Post subject:

Check this out:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/doctrine.htm

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Excellent article, except that 'nuclear land mines in the Golan' sounds implausible enough and wacky enough to make me wonder about the veracity of the rest of the article...

mithridates · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that. Is globalsecurity.org trustworthy?

My favourite part was this:

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

hypnotist · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: I wish I were a sock

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

I definitely would like to learn more about nuclear demolition munitions if anyone has information they want to share. Doesn't have to be about Israel or anything.

bucheon bum · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Octavius Hite · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject:

Go here for a briefing on the mine:

http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/FP/projects/nucwcost/madm.htm

or here

http://home.comcast.net/~mrmnmikey/adm.htm

igotthisguitar · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:

While his words, as disturbing as they may be, tending to resonate in the west as being especially irresponsible for a head of state, the following historical context is equally well worth bearing in mind:

UN General Assembly Resolution 3379
November 10, 1975

Introduction

In 1975, following a conference in Mexico, the UN General Assembly approved the following resolution, supported by Arab, African and Soviet bloc states, asserting that Zionism is racism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_General_Assembly_Resolution_3379

sundubuman · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul

here is the last segment of Ambassador Chaim Herzog's speech to the UN regarding the "Zionism is Racism" resolution.

Over the centuries it has fallen to the lot of my people to be the testing agent of human decency, the touchstone of civilization, the crucible in which enduring human values are to be tested. A nation's level of humanity could invariably be judged by its behavior towards its Jewish population. Persecution and oppression have often enough begun with the Jews, but it has never ended with them. The anti-Jewish pogroms in Czarist Russia were but the tip of the iceberg which revealed the inherent rottenness of a regime that was soon to disappear in the storm of revolution. The anti-Semitic excesses of the Nazis merely foreshadowed the catastrophe which was to befall mankind in Europe....

On the issue before us, the world has divided itself into good and bad, decent and evil, human and debased. We, the Jewish people, will recall in history our gratitude to those nations who stood up and were counted and who refused to support this wicked proposition. I know that this episode will have strengthened the forces of freedom and decency in this world and will have fortified the free world in their resolve to strengthen the ideals they so cherish. I know that this episode will have strengthened Zionism as it has weakened the United Nations.

As I stand on this rostrum, the long and proud history of my people unravels itself before my inward eye. I see the oppressors of our people over the ages as they pass one another in evil procession into oblivion. I stand here before you as the representative of a strong and flourishing people which has survived them all and which will survive this shameful exhibition and the proponents of this resolution.

The great moments of Jewish history come to mind as I face you, once again outnumbered and the would-be victim of hate, ignorance and evil. I look back on those great moments. I recall the greatness of a nation which I have the honor to represent in this forum. I am mindful at this moment of the Jewish people throughout the world wherever they may be, be it in freedom or in slavery, whose prayers and thoughts are with me at this moment.

I stand here not as a supplicant. Vote as your moral conscience dictates to you. For the issue is neither Israel nor Zionism. The issue is the continued existence of this organization, which has been dragged to its lowest point of discredit by a coalition of despots and racists.

The vote of each delegation will record in history its country's stand on anti-Semitic racism and anti-Judaism. You yourselves bear the responsibility for your stand before history, for as such will you be viewed in history. We, the Jewish people, will not forget.

For us, the Jewish people, this is but a passing episode in a rich and event-filled history. We put our trust in our Providence, in our faith and beliefs, in our time-hallowed tradition, in our striving for social advance and human values, and in our people wherever they may be. For us, the Jewish people, this resolution based on hatred, falsehood and arrogance, is devoid of any moral or legal value.