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dulouz
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: Muslims Ethnically Cleanse Blacks From Africa |
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Well, this is coming to a head. Theres plenty of questions here. Plenty.
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Morocco admits shooting migrants
By Pascale Harter
BBC News, Rabat
Migrants complain of ill treatment by Moroccan security forces
Morocco has admitted its border guards shot dead four African migrants trying to enter the Spanish enclave of Melilla earlier this month.
The incident sparked international criticism of how Spain and Morocco deal with immigrants trying to enter Europe.
Six people were killed on 6 October in a mass raid on the double razor-wired fence which separates the Spanish territory of Melilla from Morocco.
An inquiry by the Spanish civil guard has cleared its troops of involvement.
'Dumping' denied
Now a report released by the Moroccan interior ministry says a spray of gunfire from Moroccan security forces killed four of the migrants, believed to be from West Africa.
The other two, says the report, died from multiple wounds.
It is not clear from the report whether they were also shot or died in a stampede which followed.
Moroccan Foreign Minister Mohammed Ben Aissa, described the incident as "regrettable".
The Moroccan government continues to deny, however, that it has pursued a policy of dumping sub-Saharan Africans in the desert without food or water in an attempt to deal with unprecedented waves of illegal immigration across its soil this month.
However, Medecins Sans Frontieres and other humanitarian organisations have presented evidence to the contrary.
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On the other hand
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Theres plenty of questions here. Plenty.
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Yes, for example:
Where does the article say that the migrants were shot because they were black, as opposed to because they were trying to enter Melilla?
And if Muslims are planning to "ethnically cleanse" blacks from Africa, does that include blacks who are Muslim?
I'm not defending what happened, the guards could be guilty of cold-blooded murder for all I know. It's just that the title of this thread strikes me as a pretty blatant example of "bait-and-switch". |
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and one more thing:
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It is the second time in a week migrants have died trying to get into the Spanish outposts of Ceuta and Melilla. Hundreds of Africans have stormed the borders in recent weeks and Spain and Morocco have responded by sending troops to the frontier.
Searching for a way to stem the influx, Spain announced it would send back to Morocco 70 of those who got over the fences in recent days after months travelling through Africa in the hope of reaching Europe.
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So, if there's any ethnic cleansing going on here, it would be a case of Spain(mosly Christian) trying to cleanse itself of blacks. |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thats been going on for a VERY long time.. Sudan is classic for that.. basically any country that has arabic majority with sub-saharran Africa drawn into its borders. |
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rapier
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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The legacy of Islam in Africa has been one of brutal enslavement, enforced conversion, and misery for the blacks.
As muslim converts they make handy cannon fodder to fight your wars for you though.
If not, then just sell them as slaves or prostitutes. Racism is part of the religion of peace.
Miltary units patrol to enforce sharia law in Nigeria. |
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dulouz
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I messed that headline around. This manner of political debate is good fun. If these people were shot by Europeans, there would have been Abu Graib style headlines. Since it was done by Muslims, it was quieted and hushed. Arabs don't like Blacks aka Sudan.
I'm sorry these people had to flee. What is wrong with Africans that they can't provide humanity for them? |
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Gorgias
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Yah, I always wondered about Malcolm X and African-American Muslims considering Arab's attitude towards the Black Africans. |
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Tiger Beer

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Yah, I always wondered about Malcolm X and African-American Muslims considering Arab's attitude towards the Black Africans. |
I always thought of African-American muslims as kind of empowerment combined with rejection of christian white society (particularly the kind that ties itself in with the KKK and such). |
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bigverne

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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Here is an excellent article about the historical mistreatment of blacks by muslims.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008716.php#more
Members of various Da'wa groups and individuals are busily promoting Islam with what is, of course, a captive population. Already nicely identified by their condition as economically and socially marginal, with an axe to grind (and sometimes with justification), these prisoners are Jihad-fodder. They can be offered spiritual guidance by smiling and plausible souls, who tell them such things, palpably untrue, as that Islam is devoid of racism. But in fact Islam is the most racist of all belief-systems, for it requires complete identification with, and mimicking of, the mores and manners of a particular people: the Arabs, who are "the best of people." Islam even goes so far as to insist that the Qur'an must be read in Arabic (a rule that seems in recent years to have been honored in the breach) and that converts take on new, Arabic names and slough off their pre-Islamic identities, histories, and interests. There has never been an imperialism, a cultural and linguistic imperialism, so successful.
The greatest slavers in world history, the Arabs and Muslims, have gotten off scot-free. They continue to exploit, enslave, and even murder blacks -- and precisely because they are blacks, as anyone who reads the ample testimony from either the southern Sudan (where for 20 years a slow-motion genocide has been taking place) and then Darfur, where even fellow-Muslims have been mass-murdered because they are not Arabs. |
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rapier
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:44 am Post subject: |
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History of early conquest in Africa
(as then, now: slavery and conversion by the sword).
Whereas Christianity expanded quietly during the first two centuries of its existence, generating little attention outside of the occasional miracle or martyrdom, Islam burst onto the world scene suddenly and violently; its first missionaries were Bedouin warriors. In the ten years before his death in 632 A.D., Mohammed brought most of the Arabian peninsula under his political and religious authority. Then his successors, the Caliphs, went forth to conquer the rest of the world. In the past few people cared much about what happened in Arabia, even if they lived nearby; now the Bedouins stormed forth and overwhelmed all opponents with amazing speed. By 651 they had demolished the Persian Empire, and conquered all of the Middle East except Asia Minor.
Islam entered the African scene with an invasion of Egypt in 640. Amr ibn el-As, the Arab commander, met no resistance except in Alexandria, and the Romans (called the Byzantines by historians after this) evacuated that great city in 642. Nor did the Arabs stop there. Almost immediately they raided the Nubian kingdoms to the south, and in 652 an expedition briefly captured Dongola (modern Dunqulah), the capital of Makuria, and destroyed its cathedral. However, the Nubians resisted fiercely and the Arabs had no wish to hold a poor country under those circumstances, so both sides agreed to a peace treaty, which stipulated that the Nubians would supply four hundred slaves every year, and get food and cloth in return. For the Arabs, Nubia was their first setback, if not an outright defeat. To the west, they took Cyrenaica in 642, and Tripolitania in 644; in 647 they began to raid Tunisia.
Islamic conquest and slavery went hand in hand.
Tunisia and the rest of the Maghreb proved to be tougher, not because of the Byzantine-held cities, but because of the Berber tribes in the interior. Here the Arabs found an opponent comparable to themselves; the Berbers were not disgruntled subjects of a distant authority, the way the Egyptians were, but as fiercely independent as the Arabs, equally hardy in the desert, and just as skillful in warfare. They had never been completely subdued by the Romans or anybody else, and their communities were a mixture of pagans, Christians and Jews(1), so they saw no need to bow to a religion whose name means "Submission!" The Arabs had to halt their advance on the Libyan frontier for a generation, to save their resources for battles fought elsewhere.
When the Arabs were ready to move again in North Africa, the campaign began with a spectacular success, and ended with a spectacular failure. In 670 they founded Kairouan in central Tunisia, as an advance military base; soon it would become the Maghreb's most important city. From here in 681, Uqba ibn Nafi, the nephew of Amr ibn el-As, led a new army west. He advanced all the way to Morocco, captured Tangiers, and then followed the Atlantic coast as far as Agadir. There Uqba turned back, but before doing so, according to the story, he rode his horse into the ocean and shouted, "Allahu akbar! If my course were not stopped by this sea, I would still ride on to the unknown kingdoms of the west, preaching the unity of Allah, and putting to the sword the rebellious nations who worship any other god but him!" However, this was not a conquest so much as a raid, because Uqba couldn't hold on to any captured territory. As the Arabs withdrew, the Berbers began to pursue, and near Biskra in eastern Algeria, a chief named Kusaila fell upon and killed them all, including Uqba (the battle of Tehuda, 683). Then other tribes joined Kusaila's and together they retook the coastal cities, forcing the Arabs back to Kairouan.
Slave boy.
Another Arab army left Egypt in 694, led by Hassan ibn Numan. He killed Kusaila, captured and destroyed Carthage in 698, and expected an easy sweep westward from there. What he got instead was organized opposition, now led by a Berber queen named Dihya al-Kahina. Unfortunately we don't have much concrete information about her; the one thing we can be sure of is that she was Jewish (Kahina being a local form of Cohen or Cohanim). Jewish legends go on to portray her as a medieval version of the prophetess Deborah, while Arab writers like Ibn Khaldun claimed that she was a sorceress, who lived to the age of 127. At any rate, Kahina did not confront the Arabs directly, but took the Byzantine city of Bagia first, roused its population to join her, and then when the Arab army arrived, sneaked out of the city through secret passageways and attacked the besieging force in the rear. As the townspeople of Bagia charged out the city gates to join in the attack, the Arabs were completely routed. Hassan and a fraction of his 40,000-man force barely made it to Gabes, whereupon they escaped to Egypt.
Five years of peace followed, until the Caliph assigned a fresh army of 60,000 troops to Hassan. This time he used diplomacy and propaganda to divide the Berbers. He promised autonomy to the North African Christians, playing on their fear of both the Jews and the possibility of a Visigoth invasion from Europe. To the Jews, he proposed that he and Queen Kahina join together in an invasion of the Iberian peninsula, to liberate Spanish Jews from Visigoth rule. Consequently, when Hassan's army crossed the border again, it advanced without resistance and was even supported by the Christian communities it passed. In desperation, the queen launched a "scorched earth" campaign to destroy cities, farms and orchards, arguing that the Arabs would go home if there was nothing left for them to take. But that only served to alienate her Greek and Latin-speaking subjects, who lived in the ravaged areas. When the final showdown took place at the ancient Roman amphitheater of El Jern, Tunisia (705), Queen Kahina and her Berbers went down fighting, after a furious battle. Hassan sent her head back to the Caliph, and gave all Berbers and North African Jews this choice: Islam or death. About 50,000 refused to convert and were massacred, while the rest accepted Islam. It took until 708 for an Arab force to reach Morocco (Maghreb al-Aqsa, meaning the Far West, in Arabic), but after 705 all of North Africa was part of the Islamic world.
Muslims on slave gathering mission.
This marked the end of the game for North African Christianity. While in Egypt it managed to survive as the faith of a minority, in the Maghreb the Church dwindled to nothing. By 1050 the land could only support three bishops, compared with more than three hundred in late Roman times; by 1200 there weren't any bishops left. The Berbers proved to be enthusiastic converts to Islam, even more so than the Arabs. Thanks to them, North Africa would never again be merely the southern shore of European/Mediterranean civilization, and they remained Moslem even after the French conquered them in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They also led the way in the next phase of Islamic expansion--into Europe.
Before long the new Berber general, Tariq ibn Ziyad, was invited to attack Spain. On the coast was one city that hadn't been taken yet, Ceuta. Officially Ceuta was a Byzantine outpost, but because Constantinople was so far away, its leaders had been relying on the Visigoths for protection since 618. However, Roderick, the Visigoth king, had raped the daughter of Count Julian, the current leader of Ceuta, and Count Julian was understandably enraged about this. He subsequently wrote to Tariq, offering to switch his allegiance to the Moslems and to provide the ships necessary to cross over to Spain. Tariq and his superiors were nervous about trusting a Christian, so in 710 they put Julian to the test, letting him first transport a raiding party of 400 men. The raid was a success, so one year later Tariq led 7,000 men across. His first headquarters in the new land was on a mountain previously known as one of the Pillars of Hercules, but since that time it has been called Gibraltar, from the Arabic Jebel al-Tariq (Tariq's Mountain).
Roderick assembled his army and hurried south to deal with this threat. By the time he got there, 5,000 more troops had arrived as reinforcements for Tariq. The resulting battle took place at Laguna de Janda, between Seville and Cordova, on July 19, 711; Roderick was defeated, and either slain or drowned while attempting to escape. Instantly the Visigoth kingdom disintegrated, and the Moslems overran the rest of Spain and Portugal effortlessly. Then they continued into France, not stopping until they were defeated by Charles Martel near Tours, just 100 miles short of Paris (732).
Arab slavers attack a village.
In East Africa, the Abyssinians had supported Mohammed at first, giving asylum to his followers while the pagans of Mecca were the common enemy. That changed when Islam prevailed and began conquering lands that had previously been Christian. Abyssinian pirates raided Arab shipping in the Red Sea, even sacking Jidda, the port of Mecca, in 702. However, the Arabs had a navy of their own by this time, and they retaliated by capturing and converting Eritrea. Abyssinia survived, but now it was landlocked and confined to the mountains, its days as a regional power finished. And because Egypt was in Moslem hands, Abyssinia and the three Christian Nubian states were cut off from the rest of Christendom, soon to be forgotten by their brethren in Europe and Asia Minor.(2)
Around the end of the seventh century, one of those Nubian states, Nobatia, disappeared. Details are not available, but Nobatia and Makuria both ended up under the rule of Dongola, and its king, Merkurios (697-707?). The most obvious guess is that Makuria annexed Nobatia, but afterwards everybody in the united kingdom followed the Monophysitism of Nobatia, not the Orthodoxy of Makuria. It is unusual, though not unheard of, for a conqueror to adopt the religion of the conquered.
http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/africa/af05.html#Islam1
The gate of no return: from here thousands of slaves were loaded onto ships.
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rapier
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:51 am Post subject: |
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ARAB MASTERS—BLACK SLAVES (Excellent read).
by Samuel Cotton
Prologue
African Americans have contended for decades with a rage born of remembrance--a resentment fomented by poignant images of black Africans captured, bound, and sent into the horrors of slavery. Some have been driven to travel to the continent of Africa, and stand on the shores of West Africa to view the actual places where the degradation of a race began. At these places, the grandchildren of ancient slaves--survivors of a holocaust--wrestle with a terrible mixture of emotions. The passions produced by t he realization that the forts before them housed their African ancestors in their last days of freedom before a long voyage delivered them into the hands of cruel masters. The white hot anger that rises slowly in African Americans as they recall these events and the epithets that dance in the heads of these observers of the past, sometimes escapes their lips as curses and bitter mutterings. Occasionally, African Americans simply fulminate. These bitter expressions of resentment and grief have only be en cooled and soothed by a belief that African Americans hold. The comforting assurance that the buying and selling of black African slaves ended in the distant past. Such a belief is a myth.
It has become clear that the enslavement of black Africans did not stop with the demise of the Atlantic Slave Trade. That on this very day and hour, as you read this, black Africans are bought and sold in two North African countries. In the Islamic R epublic of Mauritania, black Africans continue to be enslaved by their Arab-Berber masters. Although slavery was declared abolished three times since Mauritania's independence in 1960, it persists. Slaves are given as wedding gifts, traded for camels, g uns or trucks, and inherited. The children of slaves belong to the master and slaves who displease their masters or attempt escapes are tortured in the most brutal manner imaginable.
In Sudan, Africa's largest country, the Islamic Republic of the Sudan, as a result of an Islamic-vs.-Christian civil war, black women and children (mostly Christian) are captured in raids on their villages and sold as chattel slaves, sometimes, according to the UN in "modern-day slave markets."
The Mauritanian Embassy and the Sudanese Mission were contacted several times for comment—they did not return the calls.
Extent of Islam in Africa today.
Mauritania—A Legacy of Slave Trading
The enslavement of black Africans has existed in Mauritania for many centuries. It is a country that joins the descendants of Arabs and Berbers from the North, known as beydanes [white men], and the black ethnic communities living in the South. Blacks, mostly sedentary farmers, consisting of the Tukulor, the Fulani, and the Wolof tribes were brought north after being captured by raiding Arab/Berber tribes. This activity predates and postdates the Atlantic slave trade. Simply put, the slave trade that brought black Africans to these shores never stopped in Mauritania. "More than 100,000 descendants of Africans conquered by Arabs during the 12th century are still thought to be living as old-fashioned chattel slaves in Mauritania" says Newsweek after co nducting a yearlong, four-continent investigation of slavery.
Differing only slightly with this estimate, the U.S. State Department estimates that 90,000 blacks still live as the property of Berbers, "and that's a conservative estimate," said Dr. Jacobs, who puts the actual figure closer to 300,000 when interviewe d by The News Tribune. In addition, Newsweek states that "Aside from the shantytowns and a strip of land along the Senegal River, virtually all blacks are slaves, and they are more than half the population."
"Black Africans in Mauritania were converted to Islam more than 100 years ago," says Mohamed Athie, Executive Director of the American Anti-Slavery Group, [and]. . ."the Koran forbids the enslavement of fellow Muslims, but in this country race outranks religious doctrine. . . Though they are Muslims, these people are chattel: used for labor, sex and breeding."
Bin laden and Arabs profit from the modern day slave trade:
http://www.utopiasprings.com/vcanagra.htm
Africa Watch reported that "Religion has been used by masters as an important instrument to perpetuate slavery. Relying on the fact that Islam recognizes the practice of slavery, they have misinterpreted it to justify current practices. In truth, Islam only permits treating as slaves, non-Islamic captives caught after holy wars, on condition that they are released as soon as they convert to Islam. People living as slaves in Mauritania long before the first abolition in 1905 were all Moslems, but this d id not lead to their emancipation. We received numerous complaints about the extent of which qadis (judges in Islamic courts) continue to exercise their judicial functions to protect the institution of slavery, rather than to ensure its eradication."
Christian missionary buys slaves freedom from Arab trader.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-98/02-22-98/a02wn011.htm
Successive regimes outlawed slavery in 1905, at independence in 1960, and most recently in 1980. These edicts were only lip service and window dressing. The proof is that since independence all economic and political power have remained firmly in the h ands of beydanes.
The Sudanese government never passed any laws providing punishment for enslaving black Africans and they never bothered to tell many of the slaves about emancipation. In 1980, the government sought to have its ruling ratified by a body of religious juri st, the ulema. The jurists said that slavery is not wrong on religious grounds, but that outlawing it would be within the government's competence--provided that owners were compensated for the manumission of slaves. Nobody has ever applied for compensation."
Sudanese slaves, 1997: The current slave trade in Africa is vast-
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/slavery1.html
These black African slaves in Mauritania are subjected to mental and emotional torments that have always been concomitant with slavery. "Routine punishments for the slightest fault include beatings, denial of food and prolonged exposure to the sun, with hands and feet tied together. "Serious" infringement of the master's rule can mean prolonged tortures, documented in a report by Africa Watch. These include 1. The "camel treatment," where a human being is wrapped around the belly of a dehydrated came l and tied there. The camel is then given water and drinks until its belly expands enough to tear apart the slave. 2. The "insect treatment," where insects are put in his ears. The ears are waxed shut. The arms and legs are bound. The person goes ins ane from the bugs running around in his head. 3. The "burning coals" where the victim is seated flat, with his legs spread out. He is then buried in sand up to his waist, until he cannot move. Coals are placed between his legs and are burnt slowly. A fter a while, the legs, thighs and sex of the victim are burnt. There are other gruesome tortures--none of which is fit to describe in a family newspaper" states Africa Watch. Another report states that some slaves caught fleeing are often castrated or branded like cattle.
Slave Trade in Sudan
"Sudan is the Arabic word for "black" but only the southern part of the country is populated by black Africans who practice traditional religions or Christianity. In the southern Nile Basin the Dinka and Nuer tribes practice a semi-nomadic economy base d on cattle raising.
The Sudan is formerly a parliamentary democracy. From 1899 through 1955 it was ruled jointly by the British and the Egyptians as the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. Sudanese nationalism gradually redeveloped, and on January 1, 1956, Sudan became independent. Upon independence, civil war broke out between the black southerners and the Arab northerners who now ruled the country. This war lasted until 1972 and ended with the Addis Ababa accord.
"Two Arab traders brought 449 people to an agreed rendezvous in a rebel-held area."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/115844.stm
In 1989, Lt. General Omar Hassan Bashir and the Sudanese People's Armed Forces overthrew Sudan's democratic government and dissolved all political institutions. This new government and it's Popular Defense Force (PDF), is said to be controlled by a fund amentalist Islamic group called the National Islamic Front.
This action set the stage for the second civil war when southerners, 6,000,000 people, saw their special constitutional status overthrown by the Arab government in Khartoum. Previously, the black south had its own regional parliament and government. Additional pressures were the Arabization and Islamization of the country, particularly the imposition since 1983 of Islamic law in the South. The people of the South, many of them Christians, feel this is oppressive and strongly resisted. Under the lead ership of John Garang, the Sudanese People Liberation Army (SPLA) was formed. Garang, a former colonel in the Presidential Guard, is a Dinka and his movement has splintered along tribal lines.
The civil war also led to the resurgence of the slave trade. The Sudan was once virtually rid of slavery, but "Time has spun backward since rebel leader John Garang rallied the African tribes of the country's fertile south against the country's Muslim e lite" says Newsweek. ". . .The government counterinsurgency strategy has included arming the Arab tribespeople who live on the fault line between the Muslim north and the animist south. Consequently, there has been a resurgence of traditional raiding--i ncluding slave taking, human-rights organization charge." Arab militias, armed by the Government, raid villages, mostly those of the Dinka tribe, shoot the men and enslave the women and children. These are kept as personal property or marched north and sold," wrote AASG's Jacobs and Athie in the New York Times (July 13, 94.) [and] "Many of the children are auctioned off."
Slave group tended under tree.
http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm
Corroborating this testimony is Gaspar Biro, a specially appointed United Nations human rights monitor, who returned from the Sudan in March to report that ". . .abducted children are often sent to camps that become 20th century slave markets. The price varies with supply. According to the London Economist (January 6, 90) in 1989, a woman or child could be bought for $90. In 1990, as the raids increased, the price fell to $15.
Jacobs and Athie explain that "Not only are their bodies in bondage, but they are also stripped of their cultural, religious and personal identities." A case in point is the life of Abuk Thuc Akwar, a 13-year-old girl, who along with 24 other children, was captured by the militia, marched north and given to a farmer. Interviewed by an investigator from Anti-Slavery International she states that "Throughout the day she worked in his sorghum fields and at night in his bed. During the march she was raped and called a black donkey," the investigator wrote in a 1990 report.
Some have asked why the Dinkas allow themselves to be treated like this? The Reporter, a journal published in England, interviewed an educated Dinka. He explained: "The people taken are usually ignorant, and unorganized. Though many in number, they h ave no power or weapons. When displaced, they are frightened, vulnerable and weak. People in the slave trade, by contrast, are part of the government system -- army, police, militia -- and Government people have relatives who need labor; they turn a blind eye to it.
Child slave.
http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/1529/Slavery_today_yes_it_is_still_happening
Many officials living now in Khartoum, who have served in the South, have slaves in their homes, though they deny this. The head of state, Omar Hassan el Beshir, is reputed to have six or eight slaves in his home in Khartoum."
The Race Factor
There is a belief among African Americans about Arabs near and far that may cause them to shrink in disbelief and doubt the credibility of these reports. Many blacks feel that racism and racist attitudes do not exist among Arabs, especially Muslims, and that there is a common bond between black people and Arabs, and again, I must add--particularly Muslims. It is partly for this reason, that the Arab slave trade has always been played down.
This perception was reinforced among African Americans by the experiences of Malcolm X. His positive interactions with beydanes (white men) played a significant part in his transformation from Black Muslim to Orthodox Muslim. Malcolm stated quite elatedly, "America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. "Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered 'white'--but the 'white' attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. . . .We were truly all the same (brothers)--because their belief in one God had removed the 'white' from their minds, the 'white' from their behavior, and the 'white' from their attitude." (The Autobiography of Malcolm X pg. 345, 346) Are these perceptions true? Does racism along with economics drive slavery in these two countries, and possibly other Arab nations, as was the case in the Judeo-Christian We st? This question must be asked of other Arab nations because "The UN report suspects that many blacks are sold into Libya."
In Mauritania, Newsweek spoke to Fahl Ould Saed Ahmed the owner of two 10-year slave boys. He was asked if there was racism or slavery [in his country]. He replied "There is no racism, thaere is no slavery." The truth is that "In Mauritania, there is a Muslim ruling class made up of Berbers and Arabs, whose base is in the north of the country. They enslave thousands of blacks, who are cut off from their tribes in the south. from their language and culture.< P> They are Islamicized and made slaves for life." said Dr. Jacobs who, along with Mohamed Athie was featured on a PBS expose of modern day slavery that aired on Tony Brown's Journal, the week of January 6 to the 12. "All the blacks of Mauritania converte d to Islam a hundred years ago," Athie said. "The nation forbids it. The religion forbids it. Yet slavery goes on. And it is clearly racial in nature. These people are slaves solely because they are black. A non-black Muslim is not enslaved, a black one is."
In 1992, Newsweek spoke to a slave named Dada Ould Mbarek in Mauritania: "He was asked: weren't Mauritania's slaves emancipated? 'I never heard of it,' he said. 'And what's more, I don't believe it. Slaves free? Never here.' Isn't he the same as hi s master? 'No, I'm different. A master is a master and a slave is a slave. Masters are white, slaves are black.' Is this just? 'Naturally, we blacks should be the slaves of the whites." Dada Ould Mbarek manifests the effects of physical and psycholog ical slavery. He sadly has come to think that black men are inferior to whites.
Africa Watch spoke to Moussa Ndiaye (not his real name), he was a teacher in Tagant region from 1984 until he was deported in May 1989. Moussa Ndiaye sheds further light on the race factor when he explains that ". . .The center of the social order is th e white master who has the right to do nothing while the blacks do all the work.
When the master goes to the fields, he usually sits in the shade of a tree and is served tea while the blacks do all the work. No white woman does any domestic work. All household tasks are done by slave women who have grown up in the household. Altho ugh she grows up together with the white children, she is made to understand, from a tender age, that she is at the service of the master."
Slavery and the Media��s Silence
Since the existence of human bondage has been proved undoubtely, there are two questions that must be answered. First, why has the media given such little attention to this story, and second, who if anyone, is doing anything about it.
Dr. Jacobs, Director of Research of AASG, claims that slavery has been legitimately documented by any number of human rights groups around the globe for many years now. So, why is there so little coverage?
Jacobs: "People have to understand that what is called "the news" is primarily the account of the exploits of white people. Blacks appear only in the context of white action, usually on the receiving end. Non-whites are not portrayed as agents of histo ry, only as victims and responders to it. Newscasters who are conservative show good white action to celebrate Western civilization. Liberal newscasters show bad white action to scold and/or to improve whites.
In North Africa, there are no white actors, good or bad, so the place is essentially invisible. Compare this to South Africa where the news went wild, in my view, to show whites how they might become better people by abandoning apartheid. The media doe sn't care that the slaves in Khartoum suffer more than the disenfranchised in Johannesburg, no whites, no news."
Q: But some would say, it is hard for the media to get into the closed societies of Mauritania and Sudan.
A: "They get everywhere else. If whites were made slaves, they'd find a way to cover it. And besides, there are some pictures. Newsweek did one story on it, but the media does not think it is important enough to follow up."
A Political Problem
Slavery is not the work solely of individuals--the governments of Mauritania and the Sudan are involved. Gaspar Biro, the UN human rights monitor reports that the government in Khartoum is complicit in these crimes, if not committing them outright. Con sequently, this problem of slavery requires both the actions of individuals and political action from the United States and other world governments.
There have been efforts from certain congressmen to pass needed legislation. Congressman Barney Frank, in part as a response of the work of Athie and Jacobs, introduced a House Resolution (#572) last year in the Congress that would require the US to act against slaving nations. It was lost in the shuffle and died at the end of a hectic session. Frank says he will soon re-introduce the item in this session of Congress. In addition, Congressman Frank Torricelli (D-NJ) is calling for Congressional Heari ngs on the slave trade.
Yet a peculiar silence is observed from those who would be the most natural forces to fight for black slaves -- the coalition that fought apartheid -- blacks and liberals. When asked on PBS who was helping their group to fight the slave trade, Jacobs an d Athie cited Frank and Torricelli, but said no one from the Black Caucus was being supportive.
When asked recently by a reporter, Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ) said he would support Barney Frank's Resolution. and, referring to the Black Caucus, he said "We certainly have grave concerns about these reported cases, [and] "I remember that we condemned th e treatment of black people in Mauritania in the House about two years ago." Yet, it seems strange that in condemning the treatment of Mauritanians, the Black Caucus frames the issue in Mauritania as one of human rights, and does not speak of it as chatt el slavery. Torricelli has no such compunction.
Similarly, Payne went to Sudan last year, visited the refugee camps, but again came back not mentioning the issue of slavery, yet UN special investigator Gaspar Biro came back with stories of modern day slave markets. Has Payne not read Biro's report?
Frank Kiehne, Payne's foreign affairs advisor responded, "We're convinced that slavery still exists in Mauritnia. The congressman is one of those sponsoring HR505, the bill to cut off foreign aid to Mauritania until they shape up. We know that slavery exists in the Sudan but it's pretty hard to pin down, because it's mainly in the south and it's hard to get in and out of there."
The Black Caucus was criticized last March, when 25 relief groups met to call for stepped-up pressures on the Sudanese government. Washington Post staff writer Ken Ringle reported that "the black caucus was noticeably absent." The only black Congressman to attend was Floyd Flake (D-N.Y.) who stated clearly that he was there on his own and not as a representative of the Caucus.
One of the conference arrangers, Nina Shea, of the Puebla Institute, a Washington-based human rights group focusing on religio us freedom, speculated that the caucus didn't want to be involved in the criticism of an Islamic government.
Ringle himself guessed that the issue of black slaves serving Arab Islamic masters was "discomfiting to those in this country promoting the idea of African unity, in part because it reawakens the image of the Arab slave trade in Africa that long pre-date d and post-dated that in the New World." He went on to say that the slave issue could "further exacerbate the tensions between black Christian ministers and followers of Louis Farrakan's National of Islam."
On the TV program, Tony Brown's Journal, Jacobs and Athie said they had written and called members of the caucus with their documentation of the slave trade, but were ignored. When asked specifically if he thought there was a fear on the part of the cau cus to criticize an Islamic country or if the caucus had Farrakan in mind when they thought about black slaves serving Arab Islamic masters, Jacobs replied, "I can't imagine any member of the Black Caucus who would place his relationship with anybody or a nything in front of what he must feel is a sacred duty to black women and children who are now slaves. I am sure that when they finally become aware of this issue, they will act with dispatch."
Mohamed Athie, as the keynote speaker on Martin Luther King Day at the University of Chicago said, "We need people to support the legislative proposals of Barney Frank and Robert Toricelli,"
Jacobs said . "We need to get the word out that these things are going on. We are trying to form a grass-roots organization to combat this horror. To my mind, the largest pressure brought upon South Africa to end apartheid came from the United States and especially from the organized blacks of the United States. We need the Congressional Black Caucus and other black organizations to really pay attention to this issue of slavery. We can end slavery like we ended apartheid."
Despite overwhelming evidence of the slave trade, the silence and apathy persist. Despite the powerful evidence presented by Dr. Jacobs -- evidence strong enough in June, to get the beleaguered American branch of Amnesty International to decide it was time to abolish slavery.
When presented with evidence of human bondage in North Africa, the members voted to add to an already crowded mandate the emancipation of chattel slaves. What more do black and white political officials need to know to shatter t heir apathy and strange silence?
Perhaps fear of incurring the wrath of the Islamic governments of Mauritania and the Sudan lies at the heart of the issue. It is dangerous business to expose corrupt regimes in Islamic countries.
Examine the experiences of Gaspar Biro. Gaspar Biro is a 36-year-old Romanian-born lawyer, who was dispatched by the U.N. a year ago to investigate allegations of human rights abuses so widespread and so flagrant they have drawn denunciations from around the globe says the Washington Post. Biro produced a 4 2-page report to the U.N.'s Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. He pointed to slave trafficking, and that the Sudanese criminal law provides routinely for flogging, amputation, death by stoning, and in special cases, for the execution and crucifixion of children as young as 7. The Sudanese called his report a "flagr ant blasphemy and a deliberate insult to the Islamic Religion" on which it says Sudanese law is based. In the press they compared him to Salman Rushdie in affronts to the Koran "for which Mr. Biro should bear the responsibility."
The Washington Post states that Biro said it would be out of his mandate as a monitor or "Special Rapporteur" for the U.N. to question the wisdom of any religious ordinance or belief. He said provisions of Sudanese law providing for things like the ston ing of adulterers or the crucifixion of children were brought into effect not by religious authorities but by the secular machinery of a secular government organized in many respects like a Western-style state. "It's a very schizoid situation over there. They didn't have to join these U.N. conventions on human rights," he said. "Saudi Arabia, for example, has not. But since they did they must be held accountable. That was my mission to examine this sort of thing." Despite this logic, an official rep ly from the Sudanese government called it "a prejudiced report against Muslim beliefs all over the world, demeaning the source of their inspiration and faith."
In addition, to veiled threats against his life, Biro has received very clear threats. On March 25, 1994 Biro had breakfast at the Puebla Institute, located in Washington, with about 10 members of groups making up the coalition for Peace in the Horn of Africa. In walks Safwat Siddiq of the Sudanese embassy who had not been invited. Safwat Siddiq then proceeded to tape the proceedings and warn Biro about offenses to Islam. "He was very polite," said Puebla's Nina Shea, who witnessed and reported the e ncounter. "But the point was made."
When asked about these threats, Biro said "I was aware from the first day of this situation, and that it would come to this state if I described things as they are," he said softly. "This, you see, is nothing new for me." Biro was raised amid the repre ssive Romania of the late dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, "I lived always with one foot in prison. I know well how totalitarian governments operate, how they think they can hide things and what they try to do. I think perhaps the Sudanese overlooked that possibility when they let me in the country."
On this subject of attacking Islam, Rep. Barney Frank said in the Washington Post: "But this is not an indictment of all Arabs, just a few Arabs. When abuses occur it is much better to identify them than to ignore them because of fear or possible reper cussions. That way the abuse continues and the situation worsens." Frank is correct. This is not an indictment of the tenets of Islam, but of those men who claim to be Muslim but are not following its teachings.
This should cause Arabs to rise up in indignation--not at those exposing this injustice, but at those disrespecting the word of Allah. And Muslims have done just that. Courageous Arabs have risked there lives to get this information out.
Men who kno w and actually live the law of Allah. Men like Dr. Ushari Ahmad Mahmud, a lecturer at Khartoum University, and Dr. Suleyman Ali Baldo who drew the attention of the international community to the re-emergence of slavery in Sudan. In July 1987 they wrote Al Diein Massacre: Slavery in the Sudan, which detailed the massacre of over 1,000 Dinka men women and children, some of whom were burnt to death, in El Diein, the main town in the province of Southern Darfur. Bravely these two men reported that hundred s of Dinka children and women have been kidnapped from Diein and other villages by government-supported Rizeigat militias and are now living in slavery.
The two Muslims stated that "We believe it is the role of Sudanese intellectuals to squarely address instances of the violation of human right[s] in the country. And it was this belief which prompted us to investigate the Diein massacre and the re-emergence of slavery in the Sudan.. . .We present the results of our investigations into the massacre and t he practice of slavery in this report. We hope that it will encourage others to work to expose publicly all violations of human rights in the Sudan so that we may work together to change the conditions that make such violations possible.
Epilogue
When that which was done in the dark is brought into the light. When evils are exposed, such as the evils of slavery, invariably the characters of those who grasp the revelation are ineluctably tested. For, it is easy to rant and rage against horrors lost in antiquity, to express bitterness and anger for those tortured souls now asleep in death, or to shake our fists at ghosts. The difficulty lies in opposing a living adversary whose rapacious appetites have devastated all that one holds dear.
It is a profound experience when an adversary stops running and turns to meet you in battle. When a plunderer points to his spoils and hurls a challenge that finds its mark in the very center of your being -- " Yes, I did it--now what are you going to do about it?" Yes, what will be done about the question of slavery?
It must be remembered that this present curse is also a blessing--an opportunity. History rarely gives one a chance to confront a tormentor lost to time and place. Have we not, one and all, fantasized and conjured up visions of arriving in time to prevent the rape of mother Africa, or fighting our way to the main deck of the slave ship Zion to free its terrified cargo. Well, a window in time has reopened, but what will we do about it?
Ultimately, each African American must examine the evidence with their heart and conscience, and decide where they will stand on this issue of slavery. Whether they choose to close their eyes and ignore the enslavement of black Africans—preferring to shake their fist at the ghosts of the distant past. Or whether they decide to join the ranks of the newly formed abolitionist movements to raise a unified voice in protest. One thing is clear: Until the enslavement of Black African men, women, and chil dren vanishes from this earth, this discussion will go on--and on, and on.
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weird thing is that i was told that morrocco was a relatively religiously stable country (ie. extremism is QUITE rare). |
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It is. This whole spat has NOTHING to do with religion.
A lot of the blacks involved were fellow MUSLIMS from Senegal (which is heavily muslim) and other parts of Sub-saharan africa, such as Mali.
Don't make this a silly muslims vs. christians (or pagans or whichever religion you would like to pick) issue because it isn't.
On the other hand, sudan is not a race issue but a religous one. You cannot tell the difference between a christian and muslim just by looking at them- they're both black. |
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rapier
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[quote="bucheon bum"]
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It is. This whole spat has NOTHING to do with religion. |
Oh dear you really haven't been paying attention, have you? Slavery and Islam has existed hand in hand for centuries, the great prophet muhammad permits it. the fact of Morrocans killing blacks is just another strand in the long history of Arabs and light skinned muslims preying upon black muslims.
"Africa Watch reported that "Religion has been used by masters as an important instrument to perpetuate slavery. Relying on the fact that Islam recognizes the practice of slavery, they have misinterpreted it to justify current practices. In truth, Islam only permits treating as slaves, non-Islamic captives caught after holy wars, on condition that they are released as soon as they convert to Islam. People living as slaves in Mauritania long before the first abolition in 1905 were all Moslems, but this d id not lead to their emancipation. We received numerous complaints about the extent of which qadis (judges in Islamic courts) continue to exercise their judicial functions to protect the institution of slavery, rather than to ensure its eradication."
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A lot of the blacks involved were fellow MUSLIMS from Senegal (which is heavily muslim) and other parts of Sub-saharan africa, such as Mali. |
A blackmuslim can be made a slave, but not an Arab muslim.
"Black Africans in Mauritania were converted to Islam more than 100 years ago," says Mohamed Athie, Executive Director of the American Anti-Slavery Group, [and]. . ."the Koran forbids the enslavement of fellow Muslims, but in this country race outranks religious doctrine. . . Though they are Muslims, these people are chattel: used for labor, sex and breeding."
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Don't make this a silly muslims vs. christians (or pagans or whichever religion you would like to pick) issue because it isn't. |
It seems fairly obvious to me that Chritian missionaries are working to end the practise of slavery, and historically were the first to propose an end to it. On the other hand, Islam encourages and condones it to this day, having been the worlds no.1 slavers ever since the days of muhhamad.
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Like Nigeria and many other countries- Islam warring with all non-muslims, killing, enslaving, raping and subjugating them. Thanks muhammad oh great one, for all you've given to humanity.
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