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TiGrBaLm



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Hubcap of Asia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Help me with this job offer Reply with quote

Ive got an offer from a school in Changwon (30 mins or so north of Pusan)

they want to give me 1.8 (net)

pros: small school, small class size, set curricula, great director, 2 bedroom apartment

cons: small city, 5 vacation days, 3 sick days, all my korean friends live in Seoul/Incheon

Is 1.8 little for someone with a year of teaching experience abroad?

Should I ask for more or just wait out for a better offer in a bigger city?

What would you folks take on this be?
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a terrible deal. low money, almost no vacation. it's a joke.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

Hold out for 2 million won. Also, I'd think twice about a small city if you are hoping to have fun with your friends.
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YoungLi



Joined: 06 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: Help me with this job offer Reply with quote

TiGrBaLm wrote:
Ive got an offer from a school in Changwon (30 mins or so north of Pusan)

they want to give me 1.8 (net)

pros: small school, small class size, set curricula, great director, 2 bedroom apartment

cons: small city, 5 vacation days, 3 sick days, all my korean friends live in Seoul/Incheon

Is 1.8 little for someone with a year of teaching experience abroad?

Should I ask for more or just wait out for a better offer in a bigger city?

What would you folks take on this be?


1.) You didn't say what the hours were. I'd say if you were only teaching something like 70-90 hours per month or so this would be a sweet deal.

2.) Are they including Korean holidays as paid? You didn't mention that.

3.) Changwon is a nice city with nicer people than Seoul and it's a lot less crowded. The Foreign community is very nice .... NOT that way in Seoul. Get ready to inhale pollutants and be shoved around a LOT in Seoul like you're a NOBODY.

4.) 1.8 million? Haven't you learned how to negotiate yet?

5.) A two bedroom apartment you say? Hmmmm doubt seriously if you'd get that in or around Seoul. Housing is too expensive there.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have lived in Changwon for nearly 4 years so i know most of the schools very well...Pm me the name of the school i will tell you if it is any good..

In regards to your questions...

Ive got an offer from a school in Changwon (30 mins or so north of Pusan)
It is actually to the west of Busan and that 30 minutes is on a good day - on sat/sun it would be an hour just to the western most subway station and another 20 minutes to the middle of town

they want to give me 1.8 (net)
if it is net then it is not too bad - average

pros: small school, small class size, set curricula, great director, 2 bedroom apartment
Pm me the school - i'll let you know, as regards to the city the foreign community here is awesome, very close knit but there are some fantastic guys here plus an Irish bar actually owned and run by a very friendly irishman

cons: small city, 5 vacation days, 3 sick days, all my korean friends live in Seoul/Incheon
The city is really nice - it is the only planned city in the country and it is very pleasant to live and you can make plenty of new friends

Is 1.8 little for someone with a year of teaching experience abroad?
yes and no - what sets you apart from the rest, 1 years teaching in seoul won't cut it

Should I ask for more or just wait out for a better offer in a bigger city?
PM me the school Smile
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't state hours, so we have to assume a standard 30/week or 120/month. Be careful, some places will count up all your 10 minute breaks between fifty minute classes (for example) as free time and expect you to teach more. Look for that.

1.8 million net. Net of what? If it's after deductions for taxes, retirement and health insurance, then that's good. It's worth about 2.0 mil. What about housing, utilities etc. ?

For me, it would take at least 2.8 million in Seoul or another big city to equal 2.0 million in a smaller city or town. That's only the financial difference.

Your desired lifestyle is another factor. These are economic factors in your decision even though they are not financial factors. How do you want to live?

If it's really a good job, great director and great housing then it's a good deal. You may hold out for more and really get less (even if the cash is nominally higher).
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TiGrBaLm



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Hubcap of Asia

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hours are 3-9pm

yes 1.8 after all deductions

I taught for a year in Japan on JET

holidays are paid

sorry i missed that info, i have till monday morning korean time to make up my mind

hope this helps
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your PM Box
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest asking for more money and more vacation time, at least 5 more days is pretty standard.
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YoungLi



Joined: 06 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiGrBaLm wrote:
the hours are 3-9pm

yes 1.8 after all deductions

I taught for a year in Japan on JET

holidays are paid

sorry i missed that info, i have till monday morning korean time to make up my mind

hope this helps


This is NOT a bad deal! How does the contract read? Is it clear, vague or leave you with any questions? I've looked at contracts that were very unclear about several critical issues and I think, "what are they trying to hide here?" Would you be teaching the age groups you want? Have you talked to any teachers working there? I'd say that would be a big factor in my book. I want to know that my co-teachers are people I like and feel comfortable around. Otherwise, the other factors don't really make any difference to me. Bad co-workers in any place can make your life a living h e l l.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote