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[BigBlackEquus]

You're right, she doesn't mention Canada.

Why would everyone immediately assume it's anti-Canada? Don't people from some other countries get six month visas, too? Australians? New Zealanders?

[blunder1983]

I think it'd be a laugh to make the Korean employers suffer for hiring illegals. They get a small slap on the wrist and go back to their corrupt ways. How about jail time for them? Or a crippling fine (say 50,000,000won) ok so that'd be overkill but it'd drop illegals in the country faster than any immigration bust.

My conclusion is that the people writing that sort of thing quite like foreigners here. We're lovely scape goats and it they can happily bury their heads in the sand hearing about the lazy illegal foreigners instead of owning up to real issues like

1. Massive corruption.
2. A horribly inefficient and expensive education system.
3. Terrible treatment of the disabled and elderly.

Alas until they find a way to blame foreigners for these problems they will not be dealt with.

My favourite bit in the article is talking about her foreign friend and describing her as a "so called teacher". I'd be fuming if thats how one of my Korean friends described me, I'm here to teach, I put thought and effort into every lesson and I'd say that makes me a teacher.

RAWR!

[Ya-ta Boy]

[fidel]

[lastat06513]

BBE

He is right about that;

US- 3 months (C-3 visa)
Britain- 3 months (C-3 visa)
Canada- 6 months (entry stamp)
Australia- 3 months (entry stamp)
N. Zealand- 1 months (entry stamp)

I remember awhile back (as alot of others might as well) about the blunder with the 3-year degrees. It wasn't until a high-ranking official from someplace (I forgot where) mentioned that not every country issued 4-year degrees (some only 3-year types). That law was quickly repealed.

And I also think that if Koreans are held accountable for this, illegals would quickly vanish.


Except....
If that happened, the "wrong" Koreans might be found accountable and there would be hell to pay.

I'm not going to mention any names, but I can quickly write the names of certain government officials, conglomerate CEOs and big-name Hakwons that still continuously hire illegals.
If laws were passed to punish Koreans, these people would be the first to be put in the paper and there would be hell to pay by the prosecutors office for indicting them.

Korea (and Koreans) should be careful what they wish for- remember if something goes around, it can come around 9-fold.

Right, Ms. Yang?

[JongnoGuru]

My thoughts as I read the article (in sequence):

1. I can't imagine reading something like this if Fidel hadn't made a thread about it.

2. Hmm. Nice photo. Doable.

3. This small font is tiresome. Where's the link... okay, that's better.

4. Yeah, I'd hit that.

5. Whoa, this'll lather up the troops. Already has. But I've seen them say essentially the same things.

6. Right! How many foreigners??! That's cutting to the core of the problem, by gawd! How many *@(%& foreigners must we have running around this here uri han bando, working for "bucks" the way they do! And just what is the government DOING about it, hmmm??!

7. Definitely hit it. Cute and feisty. It can't be just my experience that girls with the biggest _foreigner chips_ on their shoulders are often the wildest tigresses under the... Well, am I right or am I right?

8. Yeah, yeah, when will we poor innocent docile sheep-like Koreans wake up to the fact that low-quality foreigner-type teachers are fleecing us and playing us for fools? *yawn* She sure likes her "so-calleds" and her inverted commas, does she not?

9. Oh dear, oh dear. The answer to Question 3 doesn't immediately seem to boil over in another blame-the-foreigner rant.

10. Oh right, so now it's the old "haves & have-nots" boo-hoo. Could it be that Miss Yang, having by whatever means attained the level of English fluency she has, is now wanting everyone else to stop studying the language? The more they do, the more she becomes just another pebble on the beach in the job market. No, I don't really believe that, but I did enjoy saying it.

11.

[lastat06513]

[Hollywoodaction]

[Privateer]

Where's the 'giant chip on her shoulder'? She's pretty much just telling it like it is.

The bit I don't get is why 'teachers having fake degrees' is always conflated with 'unqualified teachers' in the press here. Am I naive to think teachers with fake degrees is a huge red herring? They need to realise having a degree does not equate to 'qualified teacher'.

[JongnoGuru]

[anyway]

The funny thing for me is that she writes much better than the public school teachers that I am supposedly teaching composition. (I say supposedly because they're basically on a 6 month paid vacation. Sure, they show up to class, but they couldn't be bothered to lift a finger outside of class. Talk about getting over!!) I mean her sentence fluency and word choice is far and away better than almost all my English teacher trainees. (She should really thank her editor.) HOWEVER, the logic and depth of thought, the style of the essay (pointing to the obvious problems and asking all the obvious questions), and the quick easy fix at the end (blame the government) are exactly the same as almost every "good" essay I've seen since I got here. Sad but true. I mean, shouldn't lawyer types be doing a bit better in the critical thinking department than the public school teachers?

[bosintang]

[fidel]

I don't think people feel threatened by what she has to say (which IMO is nothing) rather a tad miffed that she denigrates ALL foreign teachers, and blames us for all the ills that she sees in private education (which she obviously took full advantage off in her formative years). She's a hack with a beef with foreigners, why else would she contribute such a diatribe to an English edition of a newspaper.

[bosintang]

[JongnoGuru]