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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: Public School Madness (open-class) |
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My open class in Nov.17 and we will be having approx. 150-200 visiting principals, english teachers, and education office bureaucrats attend the school. My co-teacher told me that the class we were to use would be my choice so I told her that without question it would have to be 5-5. There are 6 grade 5 classes and 5-5 excels in every way imaginable. They're behaviour, listening, and enthusiasim floors me every time I teach them and I'm sure they would floor anyone that would watch them.
However, 5-5 is on the 4th floor of the school and for some reason the vice-principal decided that the open class HAS to be in a classroom on the 3rd floor of the school. Therefore, we cannot use 5-5 for the open class. I said that they were the best class and that I was given the choice but the vice-principal wouldn't listen. The homeroom teacher had told the kids about my choice and that we have to change the choice and they were actually extremely upset. Today in class they all said they were sad, they were devising ways to get the vice-principal to change his mind, and they even told me that I should go on strike. Hilarious.
During lunch break they selected a group of class representatives and went to the vice-principals office to petition the vice-principal to change his mind. He wouldn't change his mind. Over lunchtime coffee another Korean English teacher talked to him and said that the class could just move to a classroom on the 3rd floor because it would be after regular school hours.
It appears we have to choose from two different classes: one that is unenthusiastic, or one that has two children with severe behavioral problems. All the other teachers agree that it should be with 5-5 but the they told me that the vice-principal doesn't understand.
I'm slightly annoyed to say the least. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Public School Madness (open-class) |
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I_Am_Wrong wrote: |
My open class in Nov.17 and we will be having approx. 150-200 visiting principals, english teachers, and education office bureaucrats attend the school. My co-teacher told me that the class we were to use would be my choice so I told her that without question it would have to be 5-5. There are 6 grade 5 classes and 5-5 excels in every way imaginable. They're behaviour, listening, and enthusiasim floors me every time I teach them and I'm sure they would floor anyone that would watch them.
However, 5-5 is on the 4th floor of the school and for some reason the vice-principal decided that the open class HAS to be in a classroom on the 3rd floor of the school. Therefore, we cannot use 5-5 for the open class. I said that they were the best class and that I was given the choice but the vice-principal wouldn't listen. The homeroom teacher had told the kids about my choice and that we have to change the choice and they were actually extremely upset. Today in class they all said they were sad, they were devising ways to get the vice-principal to change his mind, and they even told me that I should go on strike. Hilarious.
During lunch break they selected a group of class representatives and went to the vice-principals office to petition the vice-principal to change his mind. He wouldn't change his mind. Over lunchtime coffee another Korean English teacher talked to him and said that the class could just move to a classroom on the 3rd floor because it would be after regular school hours.
It appears we have to choose from two different classes: one that is unenthusiastic, or one that has two children with severe behavioral problems. All the other teachers agree that it should be with 5-5 but the they told me that the vice-principal doesn't understand.
I'm slightly annoyed to say the least. |
Majority of Directors and or principals sound like nitwits. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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If you are forced to choose between the two undesirable classes, ask to have the two behavioral problem students removed for the day. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Let me get this straight. He will not even allow the 5-5 class to change classrooms for this one lesson?
What's the reason they cannot change classrooms?
Why cant this lesson be on the 4th floor?
I would love to hear this.
Reminds me of the time an ice cream store refused to give me a milk shake even though they had all the ingredients in plain sight. |
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crazykiwi

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Location: new zealand via daejeon
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I feel for you bro. 100 -200??? wtf?? i just had mine today, with around 30 odd. well my situation is this. the korean co-teacher decided she would spend 20 odd hours planning this one lesson, proceed to phase me out over the lesson and then go on to say and perform the whole lesson in korean. with me standing on the sidelines doing diddly squat! well we had a "meeting" afterwards with all the big wigs and teachers who went on to totally destroy the lesson and the korean teacher to tears. now im not a mean man, so i stuck up for her and asked if they had anything noice to say about the lesson, like how pretty the flash cards looked how organized the lesson was etc, the biggest wig just said to me "you like to complain alot dont you?" my reply being " no, i just like to answer and defend what it is YOU guys are saying, isnt that fair enough?" to put it short, it was just a big bull crap session to destroy what little moral this teacher had. not my cup of tea at all. |
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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like he's in a "I'm in charge and this is reminding you of the fact" mood. I've experienced it a couple of times, and there is no reasoning with it. The only way i've found is to shake your head in disbelief and recall logic was left behind when u first got the plane here!  |
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bourquetheman
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I feel for you as I had my open class last Thursday. Luckily I have my own classroom and the students come to me, therefore I had the choice of whatever class I liked. I can't imagine the vice-principal won't at least let you put them in that class for the day, I mean what's the big deal of them coming into another classroom? If he wants a good open class he should be willing to let you have your way. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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The question "why can't the students just go to the other classroom" has been asked by the students, by me, and by other teachers. The vice-principal treats it as a question that doesn't need to be answered. It's perplexing. The other home-room teacher doesn't want her class to do it (the unenthusiastic one) because if class decorations. Her class has no English decoration in it and she doesn't want to take the time to do it. The 5-5 class has been decorated immaculately all year with English idioms and wise sayings on the wall and the whole 9 yard.
I just don't get it. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: |
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I have done scads of demonstration/open classes and I hate all the BS. Especially the fact that they are planned, programmed, rehearsed and with the best classes...!!!!
I feel for you BUT you should teach and give your all to each class....no different with suits in the room in this respect. Do your best. VP is right, you should teach any class for this.......
My two cents worth....it is not a spectator sport, but a lesson....
DD |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: |
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ddeubel wrote: |
I have done scads of demonstration/open classes and I hate all the BS. Especially the fact that they are planned, programmed, rehearsed and with the best classes...!!!!
I feel for you BUT you should teach and give your all to each class....no different with suits in the room in this respect. Do your best. VP is right, you should teach any class for this.......
My two cents worth....it is not a spectator sport, but a lesson....
DD |
I agree, I did one early last year with all the usual hooplah, they wanted a special demonstration class but I refused and taught my usual lesson as the semester was short enough as it was and I couldn't afford this one particular class to fall even further behind. I made no special effort, taught whatever class I happened to have scheduled and all went well, no complaints and plaudits all round. I did however pre-warn the class and stressed that if they weren't on their best behaviour I'd flunk them from the class. If they were enthuastic I'd buy them an icecream. Worked like a dream! |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry but...any lesson with 150 people watching is not going to be just another lesson. It will be a well planned lesson that isn't "orchestrated." This is a being considered a big deal as not only will all the big wigs be there but they will also be filming it for local news programs. Choosing the best class is also a reward for being the best class because they get to be on tv.
Also, don't for a second give me a condescending attitude that I don't give my all for every damn class I teach. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I_Am_Wrong wrote: |
I'm sorry but...any lesson with 150 people watching is not going to be just another lesson. It will be a well planned lesson that isn't "orchestrated." This is a being considered a big deal as not only will all the big wigs be there but they will also be filming it for local news programs. Choosing the best class is also a reward for being the best class because they get to be on tv.
Also, don't for a second give me a condescending attitude that I don't give my all for every damn class I teach. |
Relax, mate. Sorry if you got that impression but I wasn't insinuating anything merely giving my opinion.
IMO being on TV isn't as big as deal in Korea as it is back home. Hell, I was in prime time news for several weeks last year in an ongoing special on English education in high schools, the good the bad and the ugly. Fortunately I was the example of a good teacher. You can also catch me on Quiny (sp) some sort of cartoon channel that shows my mug woofing down a triangle kimbab. TV cameras seem to be everywhere in this country and it seems you can't go to COEX these days without being interviewed about some trivial subject.
I was told that there would be 30 officials attending and had to move my class to a larger one to accomodate everyone. DO you know what? 6 showed up. The rest were observing other classes, tied up in meetings or doing post observation analysis in the library.
My advice is to go with the flow, do the best you can and quit arguing with the VP. He may be wrong but your harrassment of him will only harm you in the long run. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Why not just refuse to do the lesson?
If they are not going to allow you to do it the best way (without a valid explanation) you can, then that's valid enough reason not to do it. |
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I_Am_Wrong
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I really couldn't care less about being on tv but for the students it's a huge deal. For the record, my vice-principal is a very nice man and there has only been thoughtful discussion, no arguing. |
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