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Saudi Arabia: Friend or Foe?

 
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Saudi Arabia: Friend or Foe? Reply with quote

Apparently, Saudi Arabia is sponsoring Wahabism (a form of Muslim extremism), or at the very least attempting to encourage it by publishing hate literature that is distributed in mosques all around the world, including in the US.

http://www.aina.org/news/20051108145828.htm
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't look at your link (yet), but the obvious answer is-
Foe, eventually.
The cold war (fear of Soviet union and its client states) threw Saudi Arabia and the west together and mutual enemies (Saddam, terrorists) and the West's oil dependence are the only things that have kept the relationship together. Eventually the Saudis' paradoxical relationship with religious fanatics is going to unravel the regime and its relationship with the West (and America in particular, of course). Saudi Arabia is silently happy that Muslim extremists are so focused on the US. Wahabi or no, the House of Saud is viewed as a corrupt apostate regime, and they know it.
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have to agree with Bulsajo. The Saud family is on very tenuous ground and they definitely walk a tightrope between pleasing the extremists and maintaining relationships with the West and giving lip service to stamping out terrorism in the Kingdom.

Most of your "average Joe" Saudis will tell you, to your face, that they are horrified by terrorism and agree with the government's uhhhhh....."campaign" against it but it is widely known that a lot of Saudis are looking for the right opportunity to overthrow the government and instill an even more strict society (yes, it is possible) in Saudi Arabia and eventually the entire Middle East....and beyond. A lot of expats in Saudi thought the death of the king was going to bring that revolution, but nothing happened. Its only a matter of time.
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Octavius Hite



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Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and please don't forget history, The bin Saud family is only in power becasue they made a deal with the Wahabi's. The Saud's would control the political destiny and the Wahabi's (mostly tribal warlords) would control religion in the country. If the royal family defies the Wahabi establishment then it is to be removed so any claims made by the government of this little gem of a country must be viewed through this historical lense.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi Arabia was home to nearly all of the terrorists who flew airplanes into the World Trade Centres. Some friends.

Ken:>
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USA, and other Western nations should outlaw Saudi funding of mosques, and stop them spreading their message of Jihad and infidel hatred. We should not allow Saudi Arabia to fund mosques and religious centres while it continues to ban all other religions accept Islam within its borders.
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igotthisguitar



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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IS this question rhetorickal?

Clearly a BIG thumbs down to Saudi Arabia Shocked

Isn't this the general sentiment expressed on the part of virtually every non-elitist westerner?



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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
Saudi Arabia was home to nearly all of the terrorists who flew airplanes into the World Trade Centres. Some friends.

Ken:>


I believe Mohammed Atta lived in Hamburg for awhile. Should we question Germany's commitment to NATO?

Wannago, you're still in/you've lived in Saudi, I'd love to hear what you think about this guy's theory concerning senior Al Qaeda members' attitudes on Saudi Arabia:

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Osama bin Laden has always resisted taking the fight to Muslim countries. According to scholars such as Saad al-Faqih, who is considered very close to al-Qaeda, bin Laden understands that a major blow against Saudi Arabia would bring down the regime, but the ensuing chaos and mayhem would be reason for the US to justify sending its troops into the holy land.


The reason I ask is that even should this article's claim be true OBL and Co. are different from all the ragtag independent terrorists out there who share the ideology but not the command structure or full philosophy of Al Qaeda. What role would you say this kind of logic might play amongst extremists in Saudi Arabia?
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