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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:07 pm Post subject: Bush's help in Virginia causes loss of election |
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Well, was he a help or a hindrance?
Dems are delighted ...
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US Democrats sweep governor posts
Michael Bloomberg easily defeated his rival in the election
Democrats have won elections for the positions of governor in two US states, dealing a setback to President Bush ahead of next year's mid-term vote.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4417560.stm
Yes, good news: the good folks of USA are waking to the dangers. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:25 am Post subject: |
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11-hour appearance by Bush probably didn't help much.
There was also some big publicity to Kilgore's campaign buying political ads trying to connect Klaine to NOT having been willing to kill guys like Hitler, etc. because of his anti-dealth penalty stance. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Couple other things I saw..
Tim Klaine, the Democrat.. also has a strong 'religious' track record.. well, strong Roman Catholic who was so devoted he went to Honduras for a year as a Catholic Missionary.
During this election.. he was pitted up against Kilgore and they thought his anti-dealth penalty was going to get him (southern conservatives are usually for the death penalty).. but Klaine kept reiterating it was his 'christian' values as to why he was against the death penalty. Anyhow.. just a bit more background on the race.
On another note.. Michael Shaiavo endorsed Klaine (the Democrat).. also important because the state messing around with people's 'right to die' might have come into the picture as well.
Not entirely sure about Virginia.. but traditionally its moral but also the government should be hands off as well (an odd mix).. somehow must have also went more towards that in its vote this time.
Hard to say.. but those are some of the politics that I was reading about with the State of Virginia in particular. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
11-hour appearance by Bush probably didn't help much.
There was also some big publicity to Kilgore's campaign buying political ads trying to connect Klaine to NOT having been willing to kill guys like Hitler, etc. because of his anti-dealth penalty stance. |
Might not have been as damaging as you think. The sniper (Mohammed something, can't remember his name) who plagued the D.C. area in 2002 (or was it '03? my exact memories are hazy, all I remember was that it was senior year) got the death penalty. And if anyone deserved the death penalty it was this guy.
Also from yahoo
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Republicans warned against reading too much into two governorships that started the day in Democratic hands and ended that way. Virginia Gov. Mark Warner was barred by law from seeking a second term, and New Jersey acting Gov. Richard J. Codey opted not to run.
"It's not some type of trend," said GOP Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, noting that both seats were won by Democrats in 2001 when Bush's popularity was high. Still, he acknowledged the defeats — and said they could help rally the GOP base next year. "I don't think anybody will be complacent now." |
The only thing I think we might be able to claim is that Bush's endorsment for Kilgore certainly didn't help and probably backfired on Kilgore. But as a measurement of the public's desire for Republican Congressional/Gubernatorial leadership, it's not exactly a clear referendum against the GOP. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Regarding the entire death penalty thing.. I just know it was a big *thing* in the Virginia elections.. not that it was a deciding factor on it by any means! (I just threw that out there because an election has a lot more elements than solely the party affiliation of the President and his perception).
Outside of that, the rest is up to interpretation.. which seems to allude that Republicans are becoming disenfranchised with George Bush.. which may very well be the case. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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The party in power normally loses mid-term elections because, rightly or wrongly, they get blamed for what is going on. The party in power always says it is because of some other factor. The party out of power always spins things in their direction.
We are only one year past the last presidential election and a year away from the next Congressional election. It's about 9 months too early to get excited or depressed, whichever way you are leaning. |
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