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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: O'Reilly tells al-Qaida to blow up San Francisco |
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http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=4107018&nav=5D7l
Wasn't there recently a thread on here about liberal hate speech and how mean those darn liberal meanies can be? Anyway, I'm sure we can expect our conservative friends to deliver a solid intellectual beatdown to O'Reilly over this one. Right? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: O'Reilly tells al-Qaida to blow up San Francisco |
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| "Bring it on." |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Bill not only looks a bit like Pat Robertson, he's beginning to sound like him. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| HD, do you mean the one about tyre slashers and graffiti artists? |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| God shall smite the liberal heathens! |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
| HD, do you mean the one about tyre slashers and graffiti artists? |
No, those were Americans. They slashed tires.
Sorry, I didn't even bother trying to resist that one. Anyway, yeah, that's the one. Somehow I don't think Michelle Malkin is going to get around to writing about this one. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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San Francisco: Send people to help out New Orleans!!!! Waaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Somalia!!!! Waaaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Sudan!!!! Waaa!!!
Army: San Franciso, send people to help out the Army!!!!
San Francisco: Fascist!!!!
?Como se dice "Sponge" |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| Wangja wrote: |
| HD, do you mean the one about tyre slashers and graffiti artists? |
No, those were Americans. They slashed tires.
Sorry, I didn't even bother trying to resist that one. Anyway, yeah, that's the one. Somehow I don't think Michelle Malkin is going to get around to writing about this one. |
hahaha - they're not too tired now I hope?  |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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San Francisco: Send people to help out New Orleans!!!! Waaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Somalia!!!! Waaaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Sudan!!!! Waaa!!!
Army: San Franciso, send people to help out the Army!!!!
San Francisco: Fascist!!!! |
Dulouz:
I have to agree with Dulouz, to a point. There IS a contradiction if liberals think that the army should be used for "good causes", but then turn around and say that the army shouldn't be allowed to recruit. And, given the general fuzzy-headedness that prevails among liberals in general, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the people who voted for Proposition 1 are also people who want the army to go around the world conducting "humanitarian interventions", or whatever the Clintonian buzzword of the day is.
Having said that, to my knowledge San Francisco voters as a whole haven't passed any propositions calling for American military intervention. So it's a bit of a stretch to pin the contradicition on San Francisco as a whole, as Dulouz does.
And anyway, surely to God O'Reilly could've found a better way to point out the contradiction than practically inviting Al Qaeda to launch more terrorist attacks on American soil. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Oh and one more thing, Dulouz:
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In the old days the US Marines would save these kind of people. But now we'd be accused of killing brown skinned people and then deserving 911 becuase we invaded yet another Muslim place and of course we'd be reminded that one way or the other US involvement has disastrous consequences ie "Just look at Sudan!". Sudan posed no threat to the US and they had no WMD's! Just American cowboys acting like policeman of the world.
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That's from the Darfur thread. And on this thread, you wrote:
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San Francisco: Send people to help out Sudan!!!! Waaa!!!
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In the first quote, you suggest that liberals would be opposed to intervention in the Sudan because it would be brown-skinned people getting killed. But in the second, you suggest that "send troops to Sudan" is a battle cry of the most liberal city in the USA. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
San Francisco: Send people to help out New Orleans!!!! Waaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Somalia!!!! Waaaa!!!
San Francisco: Send people to help out Sudan!!!! Waaa!!!
Army: San Franciso, send people to help out the Army!!!!
San Francisco: Fascist!!!!
?Como se dice "Sponge" |
Well, if the Army did send people to help out sudan, rwanda, et al. instead of launching invasions of sovereign, stable nations, I have a feeling that the citizens of CA would not have felt as compelled to pass that measure last Tuesday. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Yea, I knew the San Franciscans were sending a message about the Iraq War and my posts like the ones above are barely concealed globs of sarcasm (trolls). The proposition is pretty lame really as they want to "strongly discourage" recruiting on campus. They have been doing that since 1965. Generally you are supposed to work within the system but this action teases with mutiny as official policy. I feel O'Rilley's comments were as a shallow as San Francisco's proposition and I'm sure O'Rilley relished the opportunity to say "go die". Hey look! The ad rates just went up!
This proposition is likely more annoying than harmful and sometimes I support things like medical marijuana dispensaries but they also pioneered sanctuary cities and those are very bad and harmful. This kind of fun isn't always good. |
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Doutdes
Joined: 14 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the exact wording of the proposition.
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LEGAL TEXT OF PROPOSITION I
Notice is hereby given by the persons whose names appear heron of their
intention to circulate the petition with the City and County of San Francisco for thepurpose of putting before the people of San Francisco for the November 8, 2005 election a declaration of policy stating that:
the people of San Francisco oppose U.S. military recruiters using public school, college and university facilities to recruit young people into the armed forces. Furthermore, San Francisco should oppose the military��s ��economic draft�� by investigating means by which to fund and grant scholarships for college and job training to low-income students so they are not economically compelled to join the military.
A statement of the reasons of the proposed action as contemplated in the petition is as follows:
Whereas, over 1500 American soldiers have died and tens of thousands have been injured physically and psychologically in Iraq; and,
Whereas, a study by the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Columbia University School of Nursing and Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad estimates that 100,000 Iraqis have died as a result of the U.S. invasion and occupation; and,
Whereas, the U.S. government is forcing soldiers to serve in Iraq for longer than their contracts require with such devices as ��stop-loss�� orders; and,
Whereas, the ��No Child Left Behind Act�� forces all high schools that receive federal money to give personal records of all children to the military for the purposes of recruiting; and,
Whereas, the federal Solomon Amendment specifically orders colleges and universities that receive federal money to violate their own legal policies of non-discrimination against gays and lesbians by allowing recruiters for the military, which bars gays and lesbians from serving openly, on campus; and,
Whereas, a de facto ��economic draft�� forces tens of thousands of low and middleincome students to join the military in order to get money to go to college or get job or technical training; and,
Whereas, the Pentagon budget, over $400 billion per year, plus $300 billion more over the last three years for the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, is draining desperately needed resources for schools, health care and jobs; and,
Whereas, the people of San Francisco voted by 63% to pass Proposition N in November of 2004 calling on the Federal government to ��bring the troops safely home now;�� and,
Whereas, the Federal government shows no sign of ending the occupation of Iraq or bringing the troops safely home and, in fact, is threatening military action against other nations; now, therefore, be it.
Resolved, that the people of San Francisco oppose U.S. military recruiters using public school, college and university facilities to recruit young people into the armed forces. Furthermore, San Francisco should oppose the military��s ��economic draft�� by investigating means by which to fund and grant scholarships for college and job training to low-income students so they are not economically compelled to join the military. |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| There IS a contradiction if liberals think that the army should be used for "good causes", but then turn around and say that the army shouldn't be allowed to recruit. |
You say this as if it is self-evident. What is the contradiction? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote:
There IS a contradiction if liberals think that the army should be used for "good causes", but then turn around and say that the army shouldn't be allowed to recruit.
You say this as if it is self-evident. What is the contradiction?
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Well, try this on for size:
1. I want the army to send its soldiers to overseas troublespots.
2. I don't want the army to recruit soldiers.
I guess this might not be a technical contradiction, but I don't quite see how its really plausible for both ideas to work at the same time. |
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