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dbee

Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:57 am Post subject:

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it might help if you are gay and/or willing to go to church.

... gay and willing to go to church. That sounds like a pretty hectic schedule. You know how much gay guys like to go out on a saturday night.
Laughing

seriously though, I'm not sure that I get you here dd ??

JZer

Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:53 am Post subject:

Thanks for the help. How can I do a teaching demo if I am not in the country? Yesterday I sent my resume to Incheon University. I will try someother universities soon. I am just worried that I cannot contact them in Korea. I will not have a phone. Hopefully I will be working at a camp in January.

SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject:

JZer wrote:

How can I do a teaching demo if I am not in the country?

The schools that require a teaching demo will either allow you to substitute a video of your teaching or they won't consider you.

denverdeath

Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:59 am Post subject:

dbee wrote:

Quote:

it might help if you are gay and/or willing to go to church.

... gay and willing to go to church. That sounds like a pretty hectic schedule. You know how much gay guys like to go out on a saturday night.
Laughing

seriously though, I'm not sure that I get you here dd ??

Go for an interview with them(I'm assuming you don't work there already) and talk to former and current students and teachers, and you will know what I'm talking about. It is supposed to be a Christian uni, so the church request is somewhat understandable. However, they should put that requirement up on their job postings as other Christian unis often do here. Am I a good, Christian sort? Yes, I think so. Do I have to go to church to prove this to others or have my workplace expect me to go to church or perhaps even force me to go? No, I don't think so. As for the gay reference, that's a bit of a long and convoluted story of which details I will spare you the boredom.

JZer

Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:17 am Post subject:

So how long until the Korean universities actually start the hiring process?

the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

JZer wrote:

So how long until the Korean universities actually start the hiring process?

It's happening now.

The Hammer

Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:

JZer wrote:

Thanks for the help. How can I do a teaching demo if I am not in the country? Yesterday I sent my resume to Incheon University. I will try someother universities soon. I am just worried that I cannot contact them in Korea. I will not have a phone. Hopefully I will be working at a camp in January.

Incheon University provides an unpleasant working environment. If you do get hired there you can expect the following:

1. Surprises that cost you money
2. A total lack of support from the Korean staff
3. Political infighting amongst the teachers
4. Students that can't speak a lick of English
5. A terrible schedule (highly likely)

Does anyone working at Incheon University disagree with my assessment?

The Hammer Laughing

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

The Hammer wrote:

JZer wrote:

Well, you can expect number 4 to be true at all Korean universities. But the real problem isn't that they can't speak English, but rather that they expect to get good grades without doing any work. Discipline is another problem. Some students are rude to everyone (screaming in the halls, smoking in the washroom, talking back to Korean professors, littering in the classroom and in the halls), while others just won't like you because they are racist. Many are great, though.

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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Well, you can expect number 4 to be true at all Korean universities.

False - at my university I don't have any issues with this except with my two chinese exchange students.

Hollywoodaction wrote:

they expect to get good grades without doing any work.

Can't comment on current university as it is my first semester, but the past two universities I worked at this was only an issue with 3-4 students per semester

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Discipline is another problem. Some students are rude to everyone (screaming in the halls, smoking in the washroom, talking back to Korean professors, littering in the classroom and in the halls), while others just won't like you because they are racist.

Never had a problem with this in 3 universities and 5 years.

Hollywoodaction

Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:47 am Post subject:

SuperHero wrote:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Well, you can expect number 4 to be true at all Korean universities.

False - at my university I don't have any issues with this except with my two chinese exchange students.

Hollywoodaction wrote:

they expect to get good grades without doing any work.

Can't comment on current university as it is my first semester, but the past two universities I worked at this was only an issue with 3-4 students per semester

Hollywoodaction wrote:

Never had a problem with this in 3 universities and 5 years.

Well, everything you wrote is the opposite of my experience. Lucky you. In any case, I couldn't disagree more about Chinese students. The Chinese kids at my university are actually some of the best students I have. They put the Korean students to shame because they are so polite, considerate, unpretentious, and motivated. Some have actually taught themselves to speak English with a very good degree of fluency. These kids have a master plan, I tell you.

hack

Joined: 24 Jan 2003

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:

Hollywoodaction wrote:

The Chinese kids at my university are actually some of the best students I have. They put the Korean students to shame because they are so polite, considerate, unpretentious, and motivated. Some have actually taught themselves to speak English with a very good degree of fluency. These kids have a master plan, I tell you.

Same here. I love my Chinese and Japanese students. They behave exactly as you described in my school as well. Hell, if all my students were like them I might even stick around for a few more years but this is my last. I'm fed up with the screaming, unmotivated, rude, insolent boors that 1/2 my students are. Even all the good ones and the great environment I have here can't make up for them.

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